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  1. No Red. I just think you're wrong about the potential ramifications. You are an alarmist. Yes, the extreme left is all over this but it has nothing to do with the well being of humans 200 years from now.

  2. no. in fact where i live it has been getting warmer since around 6am this morning. i expect within 2 days it will be 500 degrees.

    what? cycles you say? nope. trends always continue one direction forever. especially temperature. i know they have cycled in the past, but that was before human sins.
  3. Correct!
    I know in fact that global warming was responsible for the snow storm we had in the mountains the week before the DNC last year.(August)
    Global warming is responsible for the 18 inches of snow we've had the last 2 days.:insane:
    Global warming is also responsible for the terrible hurricane predictions after Katrina as well as the terrible hurricanes we've had since then.(who is the real doofus here?)
    BUT WAIT, we haven't had any terrible hurricanes since then!:lol:
    According to the left they can't be wrong because everything happens because of global warming!
  4. I hope I get a nice coat for my 260th birthday.
  5. There are always fluctuations in a curve, but the steepening trend lines suggest that the trends are still steepening.
  6. National Science Foundations, governments, universities, private donors.

    Prove it.
  7. *sigh* . . . But you don't offer anything to support that conclusion. You just toss off "common sense" like it explains away all of the evidence that I've bothered to back up my conclusions with.

    You call me an alarmist. I call you a disregarder. I call martin a disputer. I call Sourdoughman disconcerted.
  8. i need to preclude this with the fact that i dont know what im talking about and i dont think many do. so it almost stupid and certainly irrelevant for us to have this discussion, but...

    another 2 degrees in 200 years could have substantial detrimental affects. could be 2 degrees in 100 or 50 years if the curve is indeed steepening. yes the temperature increase could indirectly kill many.

    if you need the definitive answers to these questions before any action is done then you would rarely have anything done. life is usually about hedging bets.

  9. My theory is that man is responsible for the external temp increases, and more significant than co2 release and heat island effects of our concrete jungles, is that we have homes and buildings hording cool air and pumping hot air into the environment.

    I'm sure a graph of air conditioning usage in the world would correlate to the temp increases. And as buildings and homes increase needing air conditioning, so will the outside temp.

    Simply releasing all the trapped inside cool air from our homes and offices should solve the problem.
  10. like what? lots of animals and plants (that we eat) prefer warmer temperatures. and hurricanes will pobably more rare (but slightly more severe)

    kill them how? yunno what else kills millions? third world living conditions and disease. yunno how to develop third world countries? let them sell to a booming american market, possibly by selling things from heavy polluting industries. lack of a developed economy is killing people right now. if your concern is humans, your priorities are terrible.

    the government rarely needs to do anything. they should be doing almost nothing. we need far fewer things done than we think.

    a few thousand years ago america was buried under ice. not many trees.

    also as long as people need wood there will be trees.

    of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere (almost all of which is water vapor), humans contribute 0.28%
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