People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change

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  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    I'm not the doofus here...Chief.
     
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  2. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    seems smarter to be proactive/prepare for the worst. surely you would concede that IF this escalates and really starts affecting civilization that effective remedies are unlikely to be immediate. it is careless to finally realize it is bad to cut down 90% of the trees and continuously pump massive amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere but keep doing so because technology will save us. but if you want guarantees, there arent any.
     
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  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    of course that is ridiculous. what is "the worst"? how likely is it? i think the worst is massive and inevitable extinction unless we immeditely kill 99% of the population. should we prepare for that? no? you mean the worst possible "realistic" scenario? well who decides what is realistic? gore? but red says he exaggerates.

    affecting us how? specifically.

    why not?

    trees are farmed. we grow them. for profit. i grow them on my farm in south carolina. red grows them too i think. nobody wants to cut them all down. what are you babbling about? saying we are going to cut down all the trees is like worrying we are going to cut down all the corn. there are these crazy people who do a thing called "sell" lumber, and they have an interest in growing lots of trees. and these lunatics are right now trying to grow as many trees as possible. you dont even need a government regulation to force them!

    is c02 even the most relevant greenhouse gas? are humans the most relevant source of CO2?

    save us from what specifically? 2 degrees in 200 years? will that kill us? and can we stop that anyways? will we we better off for 2 degrees of warmth? how do you know?
     
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  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I know you can't. It's sad really, that you don't care about what happens after you are gone in 20 years or so.
     
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  5. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    I know I'm late into this topic but doesn't the Earth warm and cool in phases over time. Are you saying that the 1.5 degrees in 200 years is just untypical and extremely fast?

    If so couldn't you also chalk that up to the earth is young and what we think are patters are just blips in time?
     
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  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    If you paid better attention you would know that I'm not spouting things from the left. I do not quote Al Gore anywhere. I do not quote Green Peace or The Sierra Club. Go find me a post where I do before you accuse me of repeating stuff from the left.

    I repeat stuff from scientific studies, I cite the studies, and I shoot down phony science that the skeptics keep throwing up. That's what I do.

    The ones who can't see past their biased politics on this issue is you, martin, and SF. All of your posts reveal you know little and care less about the physical truth of the matter. All that matters is that some people on the left think climate is important, so you must imagine that it's crazy, trivial, and bogus.
     
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  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Yes but shouldn't there be warnings at least letting people know how bad it is for you? I am not going to sit here and tell you cant do something, but if there is a warning label on cigs, there should be a warning label on McDonalds.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Yes sir. Watch the curve steepen.

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    Blips in time, sure. There have been many blips in time where human life was unsustainable. There have been mass extinctions. But humans live in this blip of time and the huge amounts of greenhouse gasses we produce don't just disappear, they add to the problem greatly. This is something we have control over. One of the things that make us human is our unique ability to shape our environment. For bad and for good.
     
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  9. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Wouldn't that chart indicate we are going to have a down dip soon?
     
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  10. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Follow the money, who pays for these scientific studies?
    I promise anyone, there is plenty of money involved in all of the lefts crisis.
    If you take politics out of it you then have the dollars left.
    I believe the UN is also involved and that is one of the corrupt organizations in the world.
    Some people don't like AIG or other private corporations and yet the UN gets a pass.

    Remember people, we are talking one degree in the last 100 years.
    Its not like we are talking 30 degrees or something!
    It's not like scientists get things right most of the time.
    We think we know more than we do.
    Hot dogs give U cancer and then they won't, they will, they won't.
     
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