People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change

using quotes means i am not speaking for you. you are speaking for you.

again, this makes me wonder if you have actually listened to what gore has claimed. his science indicates that we are pretty immediate and serious peril.

 

The IPCC Projections do not Comport with Reality
CO2 has usually been associated with temperature rise throughout the history of the Earth. It is indeed a greenhouse gas but it operates on a logarithmic function. The Earth's natural processes also contribute, and remove, copious amounts of CO2. Since plants first appeared on the Earth, they have converted nearly all available CO2 to oxygen, fossil fuels, and other longterm removals from the atmosphere. Today less than 4/100 of 1% (379 ppm) of our atmosphere is CO2. This pales in comparison with other periods in Earth's history. Common IPCC scenarios rely on an increasing supply of fossil fuels, yet we know that this is not possible and that production will soon peak (if not already) while prices will continue to rise. It is absolutely unrealistic to think CO2 emissions will rise for the duration of this century. Even China, with the largest coal reserves, is now importing coal, causing a doubling of the global price. This will get more coal out of the ground, quicker, but it cannot continue forever.
The projected temperature rise is unrealistic, given that the USA and global temperatures have risen by only 1 deg F (.5 C) in 100 years (revised, NOAA, 1 May 2007 ), (or 150 years using the full instrumented data set) during the height of industrial expansion. Even if all this rise is correct, and is attributable to human causes, it is a trivial amount in the natural variation of the Earth, and to suggest the rise would accelerate 5 fold (IPCC best estimate) in this century is incredible. Even after the release of the new data set and procedures by NOAA on May 1, which addressed some of the urban heat island issues and dropped the warming 44% (below IPCC 2007), significant other urban heat island issues still remain. There are also issues of calibration as measurement protocols have changed, issues about the design and placement of the temperature stations, and even the strongly held view by many skeptics that this is a natural rise as the Earth recovers from the Little Ice Age (circa 1500-1900).
Sea level rise may have increased recently, but other studies have consistently shown no increase. Even if there is an increase, it is in the order of 1 mm per year on top of the 1-2 mm per year that has been happening for the last century, this additional amount is 4 inches (10 cm) over the century. This is not trivial if you are in a low-lying region wrestling with land subsidence, but it is barely more than what would be coming anyway.
The other forecasts, such as for hurricanes, rainfall, and snow cover, are not significantly different than under natural variability, and will advance more slowly than the decadal oscillations. In particular, if ocean acidity were a problem for shell formation, it would have shown up already in areas where there are naturally high levels of CO2. It has not. Further, the lead hurricane expert for IPCC, Chris Landsea, resigned over the misrepresentation of data by IPCC .

No link because you can find it yourself.

 

Simple. Not everyone jacks off while reading what IPCC has to say.

 

i think one main difference between the sides here is that some folks are able to understand why people would want global warming to be true. it sounds like something people would hate, but it isnt. people love to believe in global warming and will go out of their way to find evidence for it and believe in it. sourdough gets it. sabanfan gets it.

 

They'll take my steak away from me when they pry my cold dead hands from my knife and fork

 

Self-loathing. A very typical Liberal trait.

 

Sadly that is where we are headed unless we can find a way to stop this!:insane:
People must be ignorant not to be suspicious about comments made by Ron Emanuel.
Once they have health care and global warming they can control us.
Obama says once they decide you aren't worth it they will give you a pill!

 

Climate change law could cost 13 cents a gallon - BloggingStocks

dont worry, fellas, red has determined that the taxpayers will be happy to contribute this extra money because the science has demonstrated it. and you cant argue with consensus! red has it all figured out!