1. i am not the one advocating a massive tax! you are the ones that needs to justify it! it goes without saying that taxes cost money, they are by definition a cost, real money that real people earned and need. if you want to take their money and punish them for energy use, you have to be damn sure it is worth it. and you arent.

    wow, very specific.

    including the recent warming? sounds like a scary change
  2. I'm haven't advocated a massive tax either. That's typical martin distraction. I'm advocating the facts about the science of global warming that you wisely avoid discussing with me.
  3. true, you have said you are foragainst carbon cap and trade many times. i should be well aware of your refusal to take a stance by now. you favoppose it. you are in opposition to not being favoring and opposing the favoring of it. very clear.
  4. That's your evidence? :lol:

    Look, there is nothing in that article about any kind of "hoax". You made that up. Geez!

    All congressmen invest as private citizens. Smart investors invest in what they know and understand. Al Gore, Pelosi and Kennedy investing in green technologies is no different than Bush, Cheney and Boehner investing in Big Oil. All are taking a chance that it will make money. All have promoted policies that could enrich them. So what is new?

    But to make up a a story about Pelosi and Kennedy sponsoring a hoax is outrageous.
  5. Yes, I call the man made global warming a hoax or a conspiracy because thats what it is.
    No one can prove how much of global warming is done naturally or by humans.
    We know people like you ignore the Mars ice caps melting, if you could you would blame that on us as well.

    People are questioning where Gore has gotten his money.
    There you go, Its doubled since he has been in the private sector.
    You would be a fool to believe none of that came from the man made hoax.
  6. That's what you imagine that it is.

    You are denying the obvious results of the IPCC. There is no point in trying to explain it to you anymore.

    If you wear your aluminum foil helmet the black helicopters can't find you . . .

    What hoax? Gore has backed up his scientific claims. :huh:

    He's a private citizen engaging in free enterprise in a capitalistic economy. Aren't Republican in favor of that? Why do you hate America? :hihi:
  7. how crazy is sourdough that he would doubt the results of the united nations scientists! yunno they include scientists from all over the world! you can always trust the UN, especially when they are trying to manipulate policy.


    make up your mind. do you support gore, or not? his claim is that the science shows that the future of human civilization is at risk. is this true or not? yes or no?
  8. Thank You!:hihi::insane:
  9. The scientists do not work for the United Nations, Jethro. If you and sourdough want to disbelieve science because of political reasons or friggin' crazy reasons, I don't care. But I'll make a fool of you in a scientific argument if that's all you got.

    I've never supported Gore, never voted for him, and I've said so on numerous occasions. Go find another straw man.
  10. of course they do, the ipcc is specifically a UN group.



    make up your mind. or do you simply have no idea what gore has claimed?