People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It doesn't matter what qualifications they have to make political and economic decisions. They don't make those decisions. They make scientific decisions in their discipline and are rigorously reviewed and withstand scrutiny and challenge in the journals. Politics and economic don't fly there and the evidence of their papers is there to see.

    Economists may find valid economic reasons to prefer one plan or rebuke another. Politicians may find political reason to do the same. But politics can't be used as evidence in a scientific paper. It has never worked that way.
     
  2. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    but you are qualified, based on your knowledge of science and economics, to decide that cap and trade is a net gain for society. presumably based on how you think the carbon will harm us based on your knowledge of the science, correct?

    this of course leads to me to ask exactly how much the carbon will harm us, which you do not like to answer. and specifically i like to ask if the economic impact of cap and trade will be significant, and if so, will it be worse than the carbon would have been, were it left unchecked.
     
  3. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    No, I do.
    If there was a Consensus at the UN and it was made knowledge around the world that we were responsible for doing some horrible thing the rest of the world would believe the UN and not us, that doesn't mean they know the truth.
    I'll try this one, there was a Consensus that hot dogs cause cancer and then there wasn't and then there was.

    C'mon Red, that was the next point that I made of which you responded! :insane:
    Well a majority of anything doesn't make them correct either.
    We've had plenty of examples where majority don't mean sh!t.
    There is plenty to dispute about the global warming hoax brought on the world and a few examples is that it is impossible to figure out how much warming is from people versus natural causes such as sun, volcanoes and other natural causes.

    I don't trust anything that comes out of the UN.
    People want to ignore the UN's role in Oil for food but when it comes to global warming or anything they support its ok.
    Like I've also said, the computers only can compute what people put in them.
    Most of those if not all are for the man made global warming conspiracy
    You can not deny between government run healthcare and global warming
    the government will have almost total control over us.
    It will be almost like living in a communist country, the nanny state.
    I hope you don't like sports, that should be the first to go!
     
  4. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    One more thing, All of these crisis including global warming is nothing more but to bring us down to the same level as the rest of the world.
    Some in power now don't believe in America being the leader of the free world.
    They claim and are citizens of the world!

    We are the problem, we are imperialists to these people.
    The same that blame America first while ignoring the great things this country has done for other nations and the world!
     
  5. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    which is kind of what we have, given that the IPCC is a UN sponsored organization.
     
  6. Frogleg

    Frogleg Registered Best

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    Well put,:thumb:

    i subscribe to the 'hunter-gather type diet, it is probably the ideal human diet.

    Processed complex carbs are a cheap way to sustain human life, although too often i find myself "raiding the agricultural village"
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'm qualified to have an opinion on the politics, as is everybody. My point was to shoot down your claim that politics influenced the research results, which is demonstrably false.

    Already answered about a dozen times. If you can't pay attention then I'm not going to waste time answering you, just to have you bring it up again and again like were were all stupid. You are just being contrary. If you got nothing new to add just say nothing.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    On Beck tonight Lord Monckton challenged Al Gore to a debate and basically said "either accept the challenge or STFU". :thumb:
     
  9. martin

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    demonstrably how?

    your answer to how cap and trade is effective was "it works". but you dont explain why. you dont discuss any specifics. you dont address how much it works, to what end, or how much the temperature will be reduced or prevented from rising. you wont address how much it will cost or affect the global economy.
     
  10. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Al Gore is the perfect is the example of global warming.
    1) He doesn't practice what he preaches
    2) He cuts and runs from debates.

    People can put all their information from the UN and their scientists on here but when it comes to the corruption at the UN its like it doesn't exist.
    Its kinda like ignore all the corruption unless it fits your agenda.
     

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