Penn & Teller on the Bible

I don't put absolute faith in a book. My faith is in Jesus Christ. I never said the Bible was flawed. I said it was not meant to be applied literally and in some cases is only good for teaching.

Yeah it does.

 

right, this is just a mission on my part to help shore up definitions so we are all on the same page.

i do think that in general a self-defining agnostic is an atheist who doesnt want to seem harsh, and i think we should change things a little so atheism isnt perceived as mean or harsh, but simply as the only reasonable position to have in the absence of evidence for god.

i understand what red is saying, i just think it is a conveniently misleading way to describe yourself.

 

Well it would not hold any water when considering Catholic or Orthodox theology. That is 1.4 billion of the 2.5 billion Christians right there. I think the same could be said for the Anglican communion.

 

but doesnt it seem arbitrary to choose the chistians as the ones who happen to be infallible and worth your trust? what about the myriad of other infallible religions?

if we are willing to put reason aside and believe in things like infallibility, how do we know who is lucky enough to be infallible? if i say ganesh is infallible, where have i gone wrong in a way that you have not? was i just unlucky that the wrong god revleaed himself to me?

 

I have watched Penn and Teller in the past,and found them interesting.That is until they attempted to prove Lee Harvey Oswald did in fact commit the Kennedy assassination all by his lonesome.They would have us believe an average to below average shooter could fire three shots from a defective rifle and cause many more than three wounds,along with hitting 3 different people.YEAH...right.As for their interpretation of the Bible,they are idiots .As for fundamentalist Christians ,they are also idiots.And here is just one example.This earth is millions, if not billions of years old.The bible says that it is old.Fundamentalist Christians say it is 6000 to 7000 years old.Most Christians cannot get past the second verse of Genesis without already being way off the mark.I personally think we need to take Penn and Teller and Swaggart ,Oral Roberts and John Hagee and throw them in a ring together for a celebrity deathmatch.

 

I can only commit on the position of my faith as that is the only one I know.

A Catholic would say that the truth is revealed to everyone according to their capacity to inpret it. We are judged by how we live based on what we know the truth to be.

 

i dont understand why you wouldnt question this. how can you not wonder why the muslim knows he is right and apply those rules to yourself. man, i just dont get it.

accepting words from above as infallible, that is such a dangerous mentality. in my head, it just doesnt compute.

couple divine infallibility with with the idea of rewarding the pious with a prize for their devotion in the afterlife, that is a helluva powderkeg. to live in a world with people like you, you have to just cross your fingers and hope the locals dont happen to be hearing the more dangerous signals from above, because they are gonna do what they are told, regardless of what it is.

i dont see how the rest of you dont hate that things work this way.

 

Threads like this one with the same people repeating the same opinions over and over make me actually appreciate having a lot of work to do. Back to the daily grind.