Pavlov, Lemmings, BS, & Strawberries

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Hear, hear. Tell martin.

 

How exactly does that work?

Typical smart-ass, off topic, non-answers because you, at long last, have nothing left as far as a proper debate. You just want to toss off not-particularly-clever cynicisms.

What a load of cynical martin bullcrap! It's just another diversion from the debate you are losing. Your inability to recognize anything but your extreme position and some exact opposite one is not my problem. The rest of the world can see the shades of gray, that there moderate positions, or that people can have . . . {gasp} no position at all.

Do I sound like I never think or analyze anything. Do you realize how utterly stupid you sound? I'll let you keep making a fool of yourself for as long as you wish.

If you say so. I haven't said so. I said a triad of public, private, and industry contributions, just as it works right now.

I'm smarter than you.

Not exactly, it is the converse that I spotlight.

Please phrase a question without also trying to characterize my answer and I'll consider answering it. Will you just drop the schoolhouse taunting? It only makes you look foolish.

At last.

Human civilization has always been at risk. Until recently, mostly from forces beyond our control, like epidemics and comet strikes. There are still these threats and there is still nothing to be done about comet strikes . . . yet.

But there have been vast changes in how we can affect our fate. Research has provided information so that medical science has eradicated many potential epidemics and plagues. We are no longer helpless.

Likewise our industrial capacity has grown along with our overpopulation and added human pollution to our environmental issues. We have the capacity to remedy much of this.

Now . . . Listen carefully . . . it doesn't matter what Al Gore says or what you imagine that I should think. Here is what I believe:

Humans have the ability to fix some of the problems that we created and an human efforts should be made to address them. There also exist some problems for which humans have no solutions, so no efforts should be made to address these except for research to continue to find a solution. A prudent balance between preserving the environment and exploiting our resources must always be exercised.

That's it. Thats what I have to say about the topic. I really don't care that much about the politics of it. When people understand the issue, they will do the right thing. I care that people understand the issue.

Now, if you want to conduct an adult discussion of something new on this topic, feel free. If you only want to endlessly keep repeating the same arguments, try to form my positions for me, and criticize moderates, then I'm done with you.

If you want to keep up the schoolyard taunts, and cynically point me as a person that thinks moderate positions are usually the best positions, that proper balance is the key to all endeavors, and that pragmatism is a virtue, then go right ahead. That's exactly what I want people to see. You are a champion of the extremes, the childish, and the absurd. They'll see that, too.

 

See what I mean? :lol::lol::lol:

Your position is to demand that my position must be what you imagine it to be. So I must defend it, "else" . . . I do not support my OWN position. How completely daft! :insane:

Sorry, Charlie. You don't speak for me. I've already made my position clear.

 

Which is why the detailed plan needs to be set out. There are a lot of variables that could be changed to give better or worse results. It is not apparent on the face that this is workable or unworkable. Got some numbers to show that construction workers suffer more than office workers. What if they work for the same company?

I will not address comments to me that you answer yourself. Grow up.

Of course he can. I stand in the middle, sometimes to the right, sometimes to the left, never on the extremes. It ain't my problem if you haven't figured that out yet.

I've discussed it all that I care to. I've said all I want to say. If you are waiting for me to say what you want me to say, it is awfully naive, amigo.

 

Not at all, sir. I blame you for childish petulance.