A better course to bailout would be to let them fail and file chapter 11. This would give them a chance to break contracts and renegotiate.
If you had any reading comprehension whatsoever you would see that I am skeptical of throwing money at the automakers absent some changes.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202846.html?hpid=topnews I have no problem with trying to help the market, but this is what the hell i'm talking about. They dont know shyt about shyt.
Red that's your opinion on it not correcting itself. My personal opinion is that it is in the process of correcting itself and that is being prolonged by the government continually trying to step in. I think where we differ is the definition of correcting. And to say the bailout is helping is ridiculous right now. All you need to to that it isn't is the fact that we had the worst and best days in the history of the market mere days apart. There is a floor, maybe not where we would like it but there is one, and when the govt stops trying to put an artificial one in there, the faster we can get to it and begin to climb up again. In case you missed it, everytime a govt has announced a large cash infusement coming, the day has been good or great, but then the day after the market goes right back to what it was doing before... falling becuase not only are we in a recession, but there was a bubble over the market as well. The market will correct itself if we allow it to. I personally think us continually stepping in is the wrong thing to do and we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. The example of Chrystler is nice, but one they did what they were suppost to with the money and it was just one company, not the whole financial system. It's a bit different than one auot maker being bailed out in the 80's. I'm not saying this won't help fix it with a few less big bruises on some companies, I'm just saying it is prolonging the problem right now.
Of course, but they can't because of binding pension and union contracts. It might be better to let them file bankruptcy before intervening. Then arbitration judges would have authority to cut salaries and benefits, abrogate union contracts, and re-structure pensions. Any bailout that doesn't provide for real changes that remove the problems is a waste. Actually Ford owns Mazda in Japan and Volvo in Sweden and makes Fords in the US, Canada, Germany, Mexico, Brazil, Britain, Turkey, Argentina, Australia, and China for sale worldwide, including Japan. Ford is a multinational corporation, as is Toyota. We're either a free market economy or we are not.
Well, your personal opinion is a little naive, my friend, . . . in my opinion, of course. You have no idea what is coming, do you? This crisis is huge! It hasn't affected most of us yet, but it will before it is over. Without government intervention the economy could collapse completely. It should be apparent to you that de-regulation is what caused all of this. While over-regulation can constrict the economy, under-regulation can cause bubbles and collapses. No regulation at all is a recipe for disaster and that is exactly what has happened. Governments all over the world are jumping in to support their economies with cash and better regulations. The United States cannot fail to do so or it will be the end of our Superpower status. I see the problem here. You are confusing the national economy with the stock market. In case you missed it, they are two very different things. :wink: Well, what reasoning do you base this one? How in the world does it prolong the problem?
Dr. Faik Koray's MBA Economic's class. When government's step in to try "fix" an economic problem, 90% of the time it only prolongs the problem. But of course like all teachers teaching on inexact sciences, what he teaches could be biased. Personally, I would love to be sitting in his class this semester to hear what he has to say about the current environment. He might have something different to say now.
Well, I can offer some major examples of successful government economic intervention. The New Deal The Lend-Lease Act during WWII The Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe's post-war economy The Reconstruction of Japan and Germany What would be an example of a failure on that scale?