Over the last 10 years who have the Duck beaten?

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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    I assure you that your O will see new blitz packages….

    The premise of your argument is that the level of play week to week by Stanford & Oregon is equal to that of LSU and AU….

    Its not.

    Look at:
    SOS
    5 Nation titles in a row
    7 titles overall
    LSU and AU combined to play a total of 12 ranked teams to Oregon and Stanford’s 4…….

    The SEC west finished:
    1 AU
    8 LSU
    10 Bama
    12 Ark
    15 Miss state


    There is huge skill gap in that of the SEC and the rest…..

    Can Oregon compete, DUH, no one is saying that, but I promise you, LSU will be the best D you have faced in the past 2 years……

    So coming here to this board stating you don’t know how we assume to keep Oregon at low points or how can we score enough is just absurd….

    We play teams equal to what you think Oregon is at least 4 times a year…..
     
  2. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    “So Oregon hanging 52 on a #4 team does mean something. I don't care who you are, or what conference you're in. When was the last time LSU hung half a hundred on a ranked team? 3 teams have done it to LSU (Florida, Georgia in 2008 and Arkansas in 2007).”

    No it doesn’t mean to much. That chit happens….Though in 2007 it took a total of 6 overtimes to beat LSU twice…

    Though, nothing on earth compares to LSU’s 2003 D. :D



    But, LSU 48 - #9 V Tech 7…. 2007

    2 points away:bncry:
     
  3. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    "LSU had 34 by 11 players (15 by DL's, 19 by LB's or DB's). 2009 Oregon had 36 sacks by 13 different players. LSU had 20 sacks by 10 players.
    This shows that Oregon's DL's put more pressure on the QB then LSU for whatever reason. LSU had to bring pressure from LB's and DB to create that same pressure."

    No, it shows that when we blitz, it is more involved.

    Of our top 4 leaders for sacks at LSU, only 1 was a DT...All those stats say is that you had more sacks, has nothing to do with pressure....

    But again, apples to oranges...
     
  4. laduckfan

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    So you're dismissing the quality of Stanford's defense because of who they played? REALLY? Wasn't it Washington and Oregon State that gave that vaunted LSU/SEC defense a run for their money? Wasn't it Stanford that held those teams scoreless last year? Trust me, Washington was a better team when Stanford played them in 2010, then when LSU did in 2009. If you want to claim that SEC defense's are so dominate, what happened there?
    Btw, Oregon dropped over 50 on Washington the past two years, and gave up 6 and 16 in those games.

    Oh, it's impressive that 5 SEC teams finished in the top 15. You seemed to leave out that Oregon and Stanford finished 3 and 4. That's a pretty convenient omission on your part. But then again, it wouldn't support your argument.

    Cheers!
     
  5. TigerCliff

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    Hey Duck

    Good to see you posting and defending !!

    Don't think that many around here will respect the Pac 10. You guys have lost your big game so you will have to earn it on the field. We don't think you guys can handle our DL or OL so at my house I don't see you guys being close at the end of the game.

    But I am sure they will play the game anyway and we will be watching.
     
  6. laduckfan

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    What it shows is that Oregon can get more pressure without bringing extra guys. When we do blitz, it's brought from multiple angles, delayed blitzes and CB blind-side blitzes. Oregon is very creative with their blitz packages.

    I give LSU credit, they blitz a lot, and it works...on standard offenses. But Oregon can take advantage of that aggressiveness with bubble screens and misdirection. Oregon was blitzed like mad last year, but only gave up 9 sacks. 4 of those sacks were actually QB keepers where he was tackled behind the line. Oregon get's rid of the ball quickly, negating blitzes. So while LSU may be creative with their blitzes, Oregon will more than likely beat them in multiple ways.
    The wildcard right now is Oregon's new O-line for 2011. They're actually higher rated athletes then the ones leaving, and they have a bit of experience from rotating in on meaningful snaps in 2010, but are untested as starters. Summer camp will tell more of the story.
     
  7. laduckfan

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    I know the PAC 10/12 won't be respected by any SEC fan. I don't care if they do. But to disrespect a team that's proven itself (albeit not in the big dance) against common opponents doesn't make sense to me.

    I hate to keep going back to Stanford, but their defense was as close to a SEC defense as there is in all of college football. Their linemen on offense and defense are the same size and speed as SEC linemen. Oregon handled them for the most part. Especially in the 2nd half.
     
  8. TigerCliff

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    The Duck said:

    I know the PAC 10/12 won't be respected by any SEC fan. I don't care if they do. But to disrespect a team that's proven itself (albeit not in the big dance) against common opponents doesn't make sense to me.



    Common opponents in the middle of what LSU has to deal with each year is what some are missing - even LSU fans. LSU has 4 to 6 huge games each year, this year we will play 7 teams that will be pre-season top 25 teams. It is not apples to apples to match up those stats with LSU. We play our games to win our games and to win each game. You guys play Jr college level D's 80% of the time and your stats are going to be crazy good.

    You guys play what you play but I enjoy big boy football and would not trade what we have to deal with and get ready for each year compared to your couple of big games each year. Maybe this is the year you beat a team that has a great D!!

    Our OL and DL can't wait for Sept 3rd.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, statman . . . LSU wasn't a ranked team in 2008 and Arkanasas posted 50 points to LSU's 48 winning a Triple Overtime game in 2007 that still didn't keep LSU from winning the BCS national championship. I keep trying to tell you, margin of scoring doesn't mean a damn thing.

    You are dreaming, pal.
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    I was there too, we didn't go to sleep the night before, was cold as hell.
     

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