Over the last 10 years who have the Duck beaten?

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  1. LSUDad

    LSUDad Veteran Member

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    You got it T-Cliff, this team has a good chance to make a great run this year.

    Gonna be a fun year.....:geauxtige
     
  2. laduckfan

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    I'm not comparing Pac 10 vs. SEC stats. I'm comparing the games both teams had with common opponents. I went on a few tangents, but I mostly kept coming back to the two games (UT and Auburn). LSU fans keep dismissing the Tennessee game like it didn't happen. No props to Oregon for blowing their doors off, and holding them to less points (Btw, before that game, many thought Oregon would struggle against a SEC defense, just as in this upcoming game). LSU struggled against UT, and only won because UT couldn't count.

    I keep hearing apples to oranges. I call B.S. Once LSU fans start accepting those comparisons, only then will I believe that SEC/LSU fans can be objective.
     
  3. TigerCliff

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    Hey Duck

    If you are a LSU fan you know that game at home was a throw out game. Glad you guys played that very poor Tenn team well. We can't explain how we played Tenn. That same Tiger team at home beat a Bama team playing as well as they can play.

    You want to guage 2010 LSU based on how you played Tenn and how we played Tenn. 2010 we beat 10 teams and lost 2 ! We had Auburn close with 6 min to go!

    2010 is over and you guys lost your last game.

    You are taking your DL over our DL - right ?
     
  4. laduckfan

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    The Auburn game gave no blueprint. The same was said after the Cal game, yet Oregon hung 48 on a ranked AZ team the next week, and 37 on OSU. Those games are with Chip Kelly putting the reigns on Thomas' runs (7 runs total in 2 games vs. 78 the previous 10), after our proven back up was knocked out for the season with a knee injury.

    Oregon made a ton of mistakes during that NC game on offense. Thomas made very uncharacteristic mistakes. Over throws, misreads on the read option, etc. People herald him around here for throwing for 374 in the NC, but he only talks about the mistakes. He's been quoted as saying AUburn didn't do anything special to beat them, they just made to many mistakes (Albeit, some were created by AU's D).

    Bottom line. you have to have the horses. Normally, if a team can't defend the spread, it's because they simply don't have the speed in the front 7. If your front 7 doesn't have speed to get to the edge, Oregon will beat LSU to the edge on stretch plays and bubble screens. To stop it, teams have had to pull up DBs or safeties, leaving them vulnerable to the pass.
    From what I've seen, LSU's LB's are average size (6-1 or so, 220 or so). I'm not saying they aren't fast, but if they can't beat Oregon to the edge, it's going to be tough sledding for LSU's D. Oregon has 3 to 4 skill guys on the field at all times with sprinter's speed (James, Barner, Huff, Seastruck, DeAnthony Thomas...), and Kelly will go to the edges over and over again until LSU stops it.

    Flame away! :)
     
  5. laduckfan

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    We had LSU tied with 3 seconds to go... :)

    It doesn't matter which DL is better. LSU's DL is nothing like Auburn's was. That's the line Oregon had trouble with. Size doesn't mean anything. Stanford's size and talent is very similar to LSU's, and Oregon handled it fine. 2011 brings a new O-line, but arguably better talent then that of the guys leaving. Shoot, our All-Conference center was a converted tight-end!

    How they perform will go a long way, but luckily most of Oregon's plays call for getting rid of the ball quickly, so it's not like they have to hold blocks very long, or block pass rushes for 5-6 seconds.

    Just think, 73 more days of this! :)
     
  6. TigerCliff

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    It doesn't matter which DL is better. LSU's DL is nothing like Auburn's was


    I stopped reading right there

    You can't say that - 1st game - you can say it after the game but not before !

    Auburn had one freak we have a complete line - I know you don't believe me but we will talk after the game.


    How they perform will go a long way, but luckily most of Oregon's plays call for getting rid of the ball quickly, so it's not like they have to hold blocks very long, or block pass rushes for 5-6 seconds

    Duck I agree with this take 100% and it will be the key to the game. Everything I have seen the Ducks do is fast ! It will be our speed to the ball and being set / ready at the quick snap.

    Just think, 73 more days of this! :)

    You have won me Duck with your passion. Baton Rouge is all about passion and love of the game. The fact that you are talking football this early and searched out a Tiger forum speaks volumes about you as a maybe SEC insider !
     
  7. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    It definitely did. They forced Ore to be one-dimensional by pressuring the running game, often forcing plays to one direction. Their aggression closed the gaps that a spread offense needs to maneuver and misdirect.

    Auburn faces the exact same offense in practice everyday, so they knew exactly how to slow it down. Oregon had a similar advantage, but just didn't have the stamina.

    Sounds like a poor sport. AU had a great game plan, and they simply stymied Ore. Period.

    You obviously haven't watched LSU play ball in recent years if you don't think our front 7 is fast. The key difference between defenses from the SEC and defenses from other conferences is the speed of the D-linemen. This will be the fastest defense that the ducks have ever played against. Of that, I can assure you.

    Again you reveal your ignorance towards the LSU program. LSU has been known as D-Lineman U for the past decade or so. You are in for a very rude awakening if you think your undersized OL will be able to push this group around.
     
  8. red55

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    Tennessee was 6-7 last year. It wasn't all that impressive.

    Tennessee struggled against LSU, too. That game wasn't impressive either.

    Look, Duck. I'm not sure why you think that our respective Tennessee games trumps all other statistics, but I know one thing. If you judge the 2011 LSU team by that one game in 2009 . . . it is a mistake.
     
  9. red55

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    OK, now I see why you have some funny notions. You really underestimate the LSU defense. Team speed in the SEC is very high and LSU is among the fastest, linemen included.
     
  10. Bamabuzzard

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    Yeah, it's not like Oregon struggled against any inferior opponents in 2010.....well...except for that one little hiccup of 15-13 against the 5-7 Golden Bears. But it's not the same as LSU's game against Tennessee. :dis:

    He's reaching Red. All he needs to do is listen to people who've actually played the game for a living that are now paid experts if he wants an objective opinion. Lou Holts, Mark May, Kirk Herbstreit, Desmond Howard, Dan Hawkins (and I could go on) are all people who have stated on air at one point or another that based on what they've seen the SEC is deeper with talent and is the toughest conference to have to play through each year. Now, if duckfan or anyone else wants to step away from "homers" and "biased" opinions then IMO this is how you do it. Get the professional opinions of people that have actually played the game and many of them played it on the highest level in the NFL. And it's not even close, they all say the SEC is the toughest conference to have to play in.

    However, in saying this they are not saying the PAC-10 and the other conferences "aren't any good". They're just saying that the SEC poses the hardest road for one to get to the NCG because of the level of of competition throughout the conference.
     

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