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  1. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Yet the fact remains he doesn't know the facts.

    He wasn't just talking about those in America.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Are you shocked to discover that politicians use hyperbole in their statements?

    hyperbole noun

    Exaggerated statements intended to make a point and not meant to be taken literally.​
     
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    Oh, so I completly understand why Bush said there were WMD's.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That was not the same. Hyperbole is an exaggeration not intended to be taken literally. Bush made a declarative statement that the country went to war over that turned out to be an outright fabrication.
     
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    Obama made a declarative statement. He was saying it while playing basketball.
     
  6. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Thank you very much for posting this because you have exactly proven Red and my point that ISIS is not a radical component of Islam....in fact, it has nothing to do with Islam at all. It has everything to do with their desire for power. You honestly think these terrorists give two shits about real religion? Hell no, no more than Hitler did with the Nazi's. It's an means to end for them....a way to recruit new jihadists.

    We do an injustice when we call them Islamic terrorists because they no more represent Islam than Hitler represented Christianity. They are murderers. They are terrorists. They represent nothing but chaos.
     
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    Too bad you have no proof or facts.

    June 29, 2014 - ISIS announces the creation of a caliphate (Islamic state) that erases all state borders, making al-Baghdadi the self-declared authority over the world's estimated 1.5 billion Muslims. The group also announces a name change to the Islamic State (IS).
     
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    The ugly truth is that ISIS terrorists are acting literally according to some of the many Quran’s verses that incite fighting and killing non-Muslims in almost cold-blooded way.

    “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Quran (2:216)


    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39794.htm

    Islam’s dilemma

    The dilemma of Islam, it has been for a while actually, is that its theologians, Imams and clerics refuse/fail to view the scripture, especially the verses that promote fighting and jihad, within the frame of its historical context.

    They’d rather keep them open-ended as part of an eternal and always relevant words of Allah. Most conservative Muslim clerics are under the impression that binding many of the verses to its historicity might restrain the authority of a big chunk of the scripture, and consequently the influence of the Islamic clergy.

    This dilemma has been ignored for centuries, thus paving more ways and opening more doors for ultra-conservative literalism, also known as fundamentalism (closest backdoor to violence and terrorism)
     
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    The thing that bothers me most, and remember I do not believe in religion, is that he will paint the "crusades" with a christian brush, but then say, ISIS isn't Islam.

    Its bullshit and you know it.

    Everything that is fucked up about the middle east has to do with religion and everyone knows it.
     
  10. Tiger in NC

    Tiger in NC There's a sucker born everyday...

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    Yes, actually I do have facts: We now know for sure that Hitler wasn't really interested in anything related to Christianity. Not because he made a speech about it, but because his actions are so far removed from the teaching of Christianity that no one in their right mind could possibly ever take that claim seriously. The same is true of ISIS. Just because they kill in the name of Islam doesn't make them Islamic; it makes them murderers. If I go out tomorrow and walk into a bank and kill everyone and rob the place and later tell police that I did it because Jesus told me to.....do you think they are going to take me seriously? Of course not. So why do you take these murderers seriously when they claim the Islamic mantle?

    The Koran does indeed contain some questionable scripture....but so does the Bible. Now and then, here in the states a religious group pops up with a dicey interpretation of some kind of Old Testament bull crap and no one takes them seriously. ISIS has taken a few select scriptures from the Koran and perverted their meanings to fit their agenda. This in no way makes them a model for what true Islam teaches. No more than the klan represents all of Christianity because they have a perverted take on what Old Testament Bible scripture says.

    Your little link proves nothing, amigo. Not a damn thing. So they want to take over the world and make everybody do it their way....this is not new news pal. They claim that they are doing all of this in the name of Islam but they are not....just like David Koresch (sp?) was not acting in the name of all of Christianity when he burned himself and his followers up in Waco, TX.
     

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