Opinions on the Cincy police beating death

I thought the cops went a little overboard. Maybe they could have shot him with one of those taser guns that render you unable to move. Of course 50,000 volts from a taser gun might have killed a 350 pound man with an enlarged heart who was high on cocaine and crystal meth too but it wouldn't have looked as bad on TV.

SabanFan is right JD. If it had been a white man and the exact same circumstances we would have never heard about it unless we lived in Cincinnati. Why is it acceptable to have organizations to look out for black people, Hispanic people and ever other ethnic group except white people? White folks don't form oganizitions to look out for the interests of white people unless it is some totally racist thing like the KKK or the Aryan Brotherhood. If a white person is turned down for college entrance or for a job or promotion when he is the best qualified candidate there are no groups or affirmative action programs to fight for his or her rights. In reality affirmative action programs are demeaning and belitting to minorities because it assumes that the minority person is not capable of achieving success on his own without extra help. Sylvester Crooms, Tony Dungy, Colin Powell, Johnny Cochran, Oprah Winfrey and many other successful black people didn't get there because of affirmative action. They got there because of their intelligence, ability, drive and work ethic. They embraced the American Judeo-Christian work ethic instead of adopting the attitude that they were entitled to something just because they were a minority person. Sure, in the past there were horrible injustices perpetrated against black people but in this day and age we are all equal under the law. The other night I saw several black people from some kind of advocacy group on TV complaining that Michael Jackson was being persecuted because he is black. JD, even you would have to agree that that is rediculous.

"Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights, Now you seen the lights, Stand up for your riights" Bob Marley

 

Why? Because I used the term "White"? Hate to burst your bubble JD but I am not a "Duke Boy" and I am neither racist nor bigoted. You are probably one of those people who whispers the word "black" when talking about African American for fear someone will think you are racist. You remind me of Mike Stivic. Always trumpeting how sensitive you are while most blacks will laugh at you and say "look at that white boy making a fool of himself". I do have some capacity for hate, though. I reserve it for Trial Lawyers. The true scourge of society.

 

Because white people aren't discriminated against and black people are - that is why we need those groups. Because white people control most of the power in this country (money, political, and everything else) so they don't need watchdog groups to ensure they aren't discriminated against because of skin color, that is why. Because state law REQUIRED separate and unequal until 40 short years ago, that is why.

That's right, they didn't need AA - and for every one of them, there are 100 white people in similar situations - how many black head college football coaches are there? You think skin color didn't make a difference in any college with a white coach? LOL - it is an affirmative BARRIER in most of them. YOu're a man for qualificaitons - compare Mike Shula's qualifications to coach Alabama with Sly Croom's and get back to me.

And that is why there is no discrimination on the playing field - it is very easy to judge who are the best qualified - whoever plays the best. You win, you keep your job - you lose and you don't. You can't tell who the best coach is until you coach - it's a prayer and guesswork.
It's different for the ADs - they need their teams to win and to make money and to raise money and to please and not piss off alumni.

 

Okay. I'm white. I apply for the University of Michigan Law School. I have a 3.8 GPA and scored in the 82nd percentile on my LSAT. I'm supposed to get in, in fact i'm the last person selected. But there's a black dude that has a 3.8, but scored in the 80th percentile. All other aspects of our admission are equal. That guy is accepted solely because of race. No other reason. Race. Isn't that discrimination? Isn't that a law mandating discrimination? Sure, I might drop out of law school and the black guy might finish first in his class and clerk for Justice Day-O'Connor, but we just don't know.

Let's look at two things that are almost universally accepted as true:

-College campuses are among the most progressively liberal environments that exist in modern American Culture. Most the poeple who are in charge of admission are the ones saying these admission policys are necessary. Can't they police themselves? Are they saying that black epople are just stupid? That blacks can't get into school on their own merit? Or are they saying that Black people are poor and if you're black you obviously come from the inner city where schools aren't good. Why, then, don't we spend money on public school? Allowing underperforming minorites into colleges and universitys won't help the failing inner city schools, if that's what we're worried about.

-Affirmative action's main arguement to this date is a call for diversity. The same universitys that are clamoring for diversity support a "black student union". LSU has one, Ohio State has one, Michgian has one, Georgetown has one, I'm sure there are others, but I know these schools have them. A Black Student Union is in and of itself contray to the purpose of diversity. Sure your student body is diverse on paper, but in reality the University supports their separation. What if there were a white student union? What sort of hell would that cause? The assumption that African American students feel so insecure in any colelge environment is ignorant. African Americans walk though LSU's Union and aren't "afraid", aren't "persecuted".

When I think of my time spent in Baton Rouge I can recall many African American students that I befriended. Some I still keep in touch with. The idea that there is some sort of conscious prejudice against African Americans in any fashion is inane. If we're so worried about the FAIR admission of african american students to these campuses why don't we just ask that applicants not put their race on the application? In that manner applications would be totally blind.


That's not separate but equal, that's un-separated and unequal. It's putting the group before the individual. For a long time the Marxist ideal of the group before the individual has seeped its way into American culture, laws and politic. We should celebrate the individual achievements of all Americans.

 

"shoot first ask questions later".

How can you blame the cops when this country as a whole is engages in pre-emptive protective self defence(sic).

The difference here is the press asks questions when cops do their job under legitimite circumstances (albeit questionable) but gives the Chimp in the White House a free pass.

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