Oklahoma and the BCS Championship Game are all that matter

From ESPN.com
"2. The Nokia Sugar Bowl on January 4, 2004, will host the BCS National Championship Game and determine which team will be presented The National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame's ADT National Championship Trophy."

You are not living by a double standard just an incorrect one. No one but you (and USC) thinks being voted #1 at the end of the year by the AP means more than winning the BCS Championship.

You may need to go back and read my original post I have never said the BCS is perfect, but it is the standard. If you think the AP vote is perfect and not subjected to bias than why did the BCS decide to put equal weight in computer rankings as the two human polls and then add 3 more variables to the equation. They could have easily just used the human polls and used the bowls like they are used now to get those polls' number 1 vs number 2.

 

I will be sadly dissapointed if USC wins because it does matter. There will be all kinds of press about it beating the point home if that happens. If we win and they win, every publication, info outlet and nationally recognized mag's will list USC as co-national champs with us. The court of public opinion will recognize it that way and we cant get the title stolen from us like that. It is complete and utter BULL$HIT! I dont want to share anything.

 

Are you understanding? LSU would never be considered #1 in the polls if records were the same anyway. Look at us now we shut the #5 team down to 250 total yards and covered the line by 20, USC beat a #50 team and covered the line by 3, tell me USC is Number 1 in the nation, our poll votes were split with OU, meanwhile the homers in the largest state in the US are crying. California must have 10-15 voters in the AP, Louisiana has what 2?

The human polls are biased and bullsh*t. Thats why they did away with the crap, if the homers voted correctly it would be LSU 1st, OU2nd, USC4th. That's right fourth, they have the same arguement Miami of Ohio has, you don't see them bitching do you?

 

This year it does......The possiblity of split NC's is REAL. And the BCS has proven itself to be a very imperfect plan. If they had any guts, they would have thrown the computers out the window and given USC their spot against us. They have, possibly, cut off their nose to spite their face.

Sorry Dallas. While your post has valid points and makes interesting conversation......The bottom line is: The BCS has proven themselves to be A$$ES........You can't have a true National Champion without the AP poll.......#1 USC is playing #4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl..........#2 LSU is playing #3 OU in the Sugar (for the nice trophies you mentioned).......If we were in the situation that USC has found itself in, we would think the AP Poll was the greatest thing since thigh highs & a thong.......These are statements of fact.

That's why it's still a Mythical National Championship.

 

Golfdude, if the AP is do all end all why did the conferences decide to make the BCS?

BECAUSE ITS BIASED. They proved that to me this week. We slaughter a #5 team for the 2nd time, and USC gets pushed around for 500+ yards giving up 28 points to the number 50 team in the nation, and we don't pass them. That's shite and you know it. Argue that point, well, what is it? We've contacted all the pollsters and now they've all seen us on National TV for three weeks in a row. Meanwhile USC has some great plays but plays a weak ass conference and gets yards rolled up on them. Have they played a defense yet??? Oh that's right Cals was OK, and they lost, oh yeah thats right.

 

No one denies that it could be split just that you are wrong to say the AP means more.

You must really be a USC fan, because it is #1 OU vs #2 LSU in the only ratings that all sides (including the PAC 10 and USC) agreed matter in regards to the BCS Championship.

You offer nothing to back up your claims.

Just come out and admit that you are a USC fan with nothing better than to hang out and here and out down the BCS.

I still think the human polls are wrong, because LSU should be #1 in both. The AP has been wrong more times than I can remember.

 

No Dallas......As I stated on another thread:

"I am just trying to spread some semblence of reality onto the forum. Because of the BCS, there are 2 Championship games this year. Deny it all you want.....but it won't go away. Rest assured that if USC wins the Rose, they will get a really pretty trophy too and go into the record books as the AP champ.

The BCS's goal was to avoid this very situation.......but they screwed up their own plan."

The reason a BCS/ESPN Chamionship carries less weight than the AP is because of path it followed to get there. You can't have an undisputed NC if #1 dosen't play #2. And the AP poll has always carried more weight than the ESPN/USA Today/Disney/UPI/Coaches poll..........I didn't make this up. It's true.

I am just trying to be the voice of reason as to how the BCS has, once again, and really badly, screwed up College Football. That includes us, LSU.......after we beat OU.....if USC wins, we share a title and that ain't right. And that's the BCS's fault, not mine.

Oh well.......

 

thats great, but if we win, we are national champs no matter what happens in Cali, just the same as if they win (probably), but thats the difference, they have to hope they win, and the AP still keeps them there, whoever wins our game IS national champ. period, and way you slice it. Besides, USC will lose to MIchigan I think, having watched both teams, USC's offense is over rated, playing in the high flying, absolutely no defense pac-10. I think Michigan will hold them down and win, and make it all a moot point. If that does happen, the BCS will still have given an undisputed National Champion

 

You have still not offered up any proof that being voted #1 by the AP days after their game means more than winning the BCS Championship.

Also to have two championship games would imply that if Michigan wins they could win the AP vote. I agree that there could be a split Championship but there are not two Championship games. Only one game automatically declares the winner the Champion regardless of which team it is.

You are not being the voice of reason. You are part of the problem. We cannot control anything other than our game with OU, and if we win that and become a Champion I will not share in your disappointment if it gets split.

 

Golf dude your so far from reality it is mind boggling, Dallas quit trying to talk sense to the boy your gonna wind up blowing a fuse. he is totally clueless on this one. I've read all his posts and he is really missing the boat on the AP and the reason for the BCS, flawed as it may be. Some one sold him something on this and he bought it even if his ship is taking on water by god he is gonna ride it till it sinks, LOL