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I was pleased with the Jazz overall despite the loss especially without our deep threats Korver and Miles out.

I will take layups all day.

Milsap > Boozer

Going to be another great battle in our division this year with Denver, Portland, and the Jazz making the playoffs and fighting for home court.

Williams is a beast and I hope he stays healthy. Want to see more of our rook Maynor. BTW, the Jazz rookies were ordered by the Vets to carry Disney Princess backpacks to every road game this year. Maybe they can bring us some luck on the road.

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I was pleased with the Jazz overall despite the loss especially without our deep threats Korver and Miles out.

I will take layups all day.

Milsap > Boozer

Going to be another great battle in our division this year with Denver, Portland, and the Jazz making the playoffs and fighting for home court.

Williams is a beast and I hope he stays healthy. Want to see more of our rook Maynor. BTW, the Jazz rookies were ordered by the Vets to carry Disney Princess backpacks to every road game this year. Maybe they can bring us some luck on the road.
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i was very impressed with the Jazz myself, except for 1 person Kirelinko. Carmelo beat him like he stole something mostly everytime he got the ball. Williams is a beast, he has it all. Milsap is a true dog down on the block. I think they will make some noise, if they can defend people.

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In the meantime, the Cavs are 0-2 after being thrashed by the Raptors. However they made a run at the end of the game, but it wasnt enough.

Here are the other scores:
1 2 3 4 Total
Cleveland 22 17 32 20 91 Final
Toronto 27 30 21 23 101
CLE: L. James 23 Pts, 11 Reb, 12 Ast
TOR: A. Bargnani 28 Pts, 5 Reb, 1 Ast
Box Score - Recap

1 2 3 4 Total
Indiana 32 33 27 17 109 Final
Atlanta 29 37 29 25 120
IND: D. Granger 31 Pts, 4 Reb, 1 Ast
ATL: A. Horford 24 Pts, 16 Reb, 4 Ast
Box Score - Recap
1 2 3 4 Total
Philadelphia 27 20 22 37 106 Final
Orlando 29 41 28 22 120
PHI: M. Speights 26 Pts, 5 Reb, 0 Ast
ORL: D. Howard 21 Pts, 15 Reb, 2 Ast
Box Score - Recap

1 2 3 4 Total
New York 23 24 15 31 93 Final
Miami 27 29 34 25 115
NY: D. Lee 22 Pts, 9 Reb, 2 Ast
MIA: J. O'Neal 22 Pts, 12 Reb, 4 Ast
Box Score - Recap
1 2 3 4 Total
Charlotte 13 18 10 18 59 Final
Boston 22 20 25 25 92
CHA: D. Brown 9 Pts, 4 Reb, 0 Ast
BOS: R. Rondo 10 Pts, 3 Reb, 11 Ast
Box Score - Recap

1 2 3 4 Total
New Jersey 25 30 23 15 93 Final
Minnesota 21 20 23 31 95
NJ: B. Lopez 27 Pts, 15 Reb, 4 Ast
MIN: D. Wilkins 12 Pts, 10 Reb, 2 Ast
Box Score - Recap
1 2 3 4 Total
Detroit 24 29 18 25 96 Final
Memphis 20 21 16 17 74
DET: R. Hamilton 25 Pts, 3 Reb, 4 Ast
MEM: M. Gasol 21 Pts, 15 Reb, 0 Ast
Box Score - Recap

1 2 3 4 Total
New Orleans 13 26 29 28 96 Final
San Antonio 19 38 29 27 113
NO: C. Paul 26 Pts, 1 Reb, 9 Ast
SA: D. Blair 14 Pts, 11 Reb, 3 Ast
Box Score - Recap
1 2 3 4 Total
Sacramento 22 29 17 21 89 Final
Oklahoma City 39 29 21 13 102
SAC: K. Martin 27 Pts, 4 Reb, 4 Ast
OKC: J. Green 24 Pts, 8 Reb, 2 Ast
Box Score - Recap

1 2 3 4 Total
Utah 30 25 25 25 105 Final
Denver 23 31 28 32 114
UTA: D. Williams 28 Pts, 3 Reb, 13 Ast
DEN: C. Anthony 30 Pts, 8 Reb, 5 Ast
Box Score - Recap
1 2 3 4 Total
Houston 26 26 35 21 108 Final
Golden State 28 34 19 26 107
HOU: L. Scola 21 Pts, 11 Reb, 2 Ast
GS: M. Ellis 26 Pts, 3 Reb, 5 Ast
Box Score - Recap

1 2 3 4 Total
Phoenix 24 29 24 32 109 Final
LA Clippers 30 23 26 28 107
PHO: S. Nash 24 Pts, 1 Reb, 8 Ast
LAC: M. Camby 23 Pts, 11 Reb, 3 Ast
Box Score - Recap

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i was very impressed with the Jazz myself, except for 1 person Kirelinko. Carmelo beat him like he stole something mostly everytime he got the ball. Williams is a beast, he has it all. Milsap is a true dog down on the block. I think they will make some noise, if they can defend people.
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I agree with AK-47. He is our best defender and he struggled. I expect that to change and write it off as a bad night and Melo makes most look like a piece of toilet paper stuck to the bottom of his shoe.

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I may need to change my MVP pick. Carmelo is playing his ass off after 2 games.

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Interesting story!
LeBron's future hangs over Cavs' slow start - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

As soon as Mikhail Prokhorov reached agreement on the $700 million purchase price for the New Jersey Nets, sources say his emissaries were relentless in securing something they believed to be of the highest importance for the Russian billionaire: a sit-down with Jay-Z.

It is rare that an owner with such a small controlling interest in a franchise could inspire such dogged pursuit, but Jay-Z is no silent partner with the Nets. Immediately, insiders understood Prokhorov’s plans to woo Jay-Z pushed far beyond the music mogul’s global celebrity and Brooklyn roots. This was part of the Russian’s ambition to become intimately involved in the summer of 2010 and the most valued free agent in professional sports history: LeBron James(notes).

As the Nets floundered with legal red tape and financial issues that threatened the proposed Brooklyn arena, the threat of Jay-Z and a flashy new building would come and go over the years. Now, it could be a far more real threat than the blah New York Knicks and historic Madison Square Garden.

Suddenly, the Russian’s staggering $9.5 billion fortune and alluring charisma threaten to transform the fledging Nets into a fully loaded weapon again.

“Prokhorov and his people know that the way to LeBron is through Jay-Z,” one high-level source connected to the Russians and Nets said. “From the start, that’s right where they’ve wanted to go.”
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The shyt is about the hit the fan in the NBA. This is from the refs book thats in jail right now....
Crazy stuff, but something I have known about for a while. Who couldnt possibly know about this stuff after watching a game..

Ref excerpt doesn't read as tall tale for teams - NBA - Yahoo! Sports

Donaghy admits stars get preferential treatment, some refs have it in for some players and coaches, and a losing home team is likely to get a favorable whistle to make it competitive.

By understanding the dynamics of intra-league relationships and referee tendencies during his 13 years with the NBA, Donaghy writes he was able to gamble successfully on the outcome.

Ask around the NBA this week and you won’t find too many people outside the league office dismissing Donaghy’s claims.
read it last night and was laughing, and said, ‘Yep, that’s about right,” one team executive said. “I don’t think anyone is going to dispute the possibility.”

If the NBA’s own front-office people believe this, then how can fans simply dismiss it?

Consider Rasheed Wallace(notes), who has recorded a record number of technical fouls during his career-long battles with refs. He earned many of them, but he also claimed the refs had it in for him.

“Some of them cats are felonious, man,” ’Sheed famously declared, even before Donaghy became a felon.

Was Wallace targeted? Well, here’s Donaghy, according to Deadspin’s excerpt:

“To have a little fun at the expense of the worst troublemakers, the referees working the game would sometimes make a modest friendly wager amongst themselves: first ref to give one of the bad boys a technical foul wouldn’t have to tip the ball boy that night.

“After the opening tip, it was hilarious as the three of us immediately focused our full attention on the intended victim, waiting for something, anything, to justify a technical foul. If the guy so much as looked at one of us and mumbled, we rang him up. Later in the referees’ locker room, we would down a couple of brews, eat some chicken wings, and laugh like hell.”

This is confirmation of what nearly every player in the league suspected.

The most damning allegations are against a fellow referee, who Donaghy names but I won’t. The allegations are uncorroborated and some comments attributed to the ref are not sourced.

The charge is huge though, a claim that the NBA used certain refs to determine games and extend playoff series.
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Excerpts From The Book The NBA Doesn't Want You To Read - Tim Donaghy - Deadspin

Relationships between NBA players and referees were generally all over the board — love, hate, and everything in-between. Some players, even very good ones, were targeted by referees and the league because they were too talented for their own good. Raja Bell, formerly of the Phoenix Suns and now a member of the Charlotte Bobcats, was one of those players. A defensive specialist throughout his career, Bell had a reputation for being a "star stopper." His defensive skills were so razor sharp that he could shut down a superstar, or at least make him work for his points. Kobe Bryant was often frustrated by Bell's tenacity on defense. Let's face it, no one completely shuts down a player of Kobe's caliber, but Bell could frustrate Kobe, take him out of his game, and interrupt his rhythm.

You would think that the NBA would love a guy who plays such great defense. Think again! Star stoppers hurt the promotion of marquee players. Fans don't pay high prices to see players like Raja Bell — they pay to see superstars like Kobe Bryant score 40 points. Basketball purists like to see good defense, but the NBA wants the big names to score big points.

If a player of Kobe's stature collides with the likes of Raja Bell, the call will almost always go for Kobe and against Bell. As part of our ongoing training and game preparation, NBA referees regularly receive game-action video tape from the league office. Over the years, I have reviewed many recorded hours of video involving Raja Bell. The footage I analyzed usually illustrated fouls being called against Bell, rarely for him. The message was subtle but clear — call fouls against the star stopper because he's hurting the game.
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if Kobe Bryant had two fouls in the first or second quarter and went to the bench, one referee would tell the other two, "Kobe's got two fouls. Let's make sure that if we call a foul on him, it's an obvious foul, because otherwise he's gonna go back to the bench. If he is involved in a play where a foul is called, give the foul to another player."

Similarly, when games got physically rough, we would huddle up and agree to tighten the game up. So we started calling fouls on guys who didn't really matter — "ticky-tack" or "touch" fouls where one player just touched another but didn't really impede his progress. Under regular circumstances these wouldn't be fouls, but after a skirmish we wanted to regain control. We would never call these types of fouls on superstars, just on the average players who didn't have star status. It was important to keep the stars on the floor.
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Yep

Very refreshing to finally hear what we already know.

I have always felt that the Jazz get the short end of the stick when it involved crucial calls in the playoffs over the years but I never worked myself up about it because we have been fortunate as well. We led the NBA in penalties 2 years ago and are close to the bottom each and every year. I am not going to say that the Jazz should have been in the finals any given season and it is conspiracy because we haven't.

But honestly, the NBA would hate for the Jazz to make it to the finals anytime soon. We do not have a superstar (even though Williams is one), we play defense, usually cause low scoring games, and swarm your superstar with an array of defensive stoppers and most importantly we are in a small national market. Utah fans are rabid but very concentrated.

It was fine for the NBA to have Stockton and Malone in the finals because they were a superstar duo with long successful careers exiting their prime. And they had built rivals in the West vs the Lakers, etc... and had a history with the Bulls.

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Yep

Very refreshing to finally hear what we already know.

I have always felt that the Jazz get the short end of the stick when it involved crucial calls in the playoffs over the years but I never worked myself up about it because we have been fortunate as well. We led the NBA in penalties 2 years ago and are close to the bottom each and every year. I am not going to say that the Jazz should have been in the finals any given season and it is conspiracy because we haven't.

But honestly, the NBA would hate for the Jazz to make it to the finals anytime soon. We do not have a superstar (even though Williams is one), we play defense, usually cause low scoring games, and swarm your superstar with an array of defensive stoppers and most importantly we are in a small national market. Utah fans are rabid but very concentrated.

It was fine for the NBA to have Stockton and Malone in the finals because they were a superstar duo with long successful careers exiting their prime. And they had built rivals in the West vs the Lakers, etc... and had a history with the Bulls.
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Man why do you think they hated the Pistons reaching the finals and the beat a Lakers team with Kobe and Shaq on it as well.

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