What has happened in Iraq since the fall of Saddam is very much a continuation of the war, and not only is it winnable, it is being won. You want to pull out when we are on the verge of winning it, turning victory into defeat. Of the 18 milestones that must be met, 15 have been accomplished. This is no time to wave the white flag of surrender.
i don't know how to respond to this....whether to laugh or cry.....if i may ask, have you ever shouldered a weapon in the defense of our country? if so, you would KNOW THAT SURRENDER IS NEVER AN OPTION. :dis:
I watched the debate last night, and frankly, I was disappointed by both sides, especially on the economy section at the beginning. The questions about the bailout plan were dodged by both. McCain just talked about spending cuts and Obama talked about his tax plan. On the foreign policy section, neither side said something that I hadn't heard them say before, except McCain's "league of democracies". Both sides stuck to their gameplan, and neither got rattled. I thought it was a stalemate.
I agree, called it a stalemate. Both sides made some points, not much new. On the bailout, with the bill essentially 'in flight", I don't see how either could support it or not, since its not finished. Obama was right on Iraq, to oppose the war in the first place, McCain was right on the surge. Of those two, the more important decision was whether to invade or not, and Obama got that one right, so I give the advantage to Obama.
I agree as well. Not a lot of new information, but we did get to see them side by side instead of sniping from afar. I don't suspect that many undecided voters were swayed either way. Certainly were no sound bytes, but there are 2 more debates so perhaps one of these guys will separate himself eventually.
Your opinion on this subject is ridiculous. Who cares whether he's "right" on the subject of invading in the first place? Obama doesn't get to jump in the Delorean and rewrite history as President. He's gotta come up with a plan to win, and setting a date for withdrawal isn't it. His inability to give credit to General Petraeus proves it.
This is a naive point of view. The enemy decides when the war is over. The enemy is only recently showing signs of defeat. We've forgotten how nasty and brutal wars can be. The Iraqis reminded us. And they aren't going to hate us once they realize how much better off Iraq will be after we give it back to them and leave. It just takes time.
