Official Debate Thread

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by LSUDeek, Sep 26, 2008.

  1. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Liberals will never learn. Edumacation is not wisdom, son. Standby for a painful lesson.
     
  2. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    this is the biggie. explain. what's delusional. you actually want to win all wars at any cost? its stupid. you want to win all wars on your soil at all costs. i want my prez to do whats best for my country not whats best for the pride of soldiers.
     
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    exactly, thats why mccain's experience isnt sufficient.
     
  4. Bengal Buddy

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    Preconditions are not bad; its entering negotiations without preconditions that is a bad idea. And he explained negotiating without preconditions appears to legitimize the principles of the opposing party.

    McCain made it quite clear how oil fits into the situation with Russia.
     
  5. Bengal Buddy

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    Once you enter a war, you win it. Period. That is McCain's point.

    I agree that McCain did not respond to the $300 billion in tax breaks for small business in as much depth as he should have. But he did touch on it.

    McCain is neither stupid nor young nor the fairer sex. He went into sufficient detail. Just not enough to please you.
     
  6. Bengal Buddy

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    Education and experience are two different things. Wisdom does not come from education; it comes from experience. McCain's experience gives him the wisdom Obama is still in the process of gaining. In another 20 years he may have it.
     
  7. mobius481

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    What do you guys make of the fact that when addressing Obama, McCain went with the standard "Senator Obama" where has Obama addressed McCain as "John" many times. Was this planned by Obama and what kind of impression does this give off. It came off a little arrogant to me but I think he may have done it to prove a point. He certainly seemed to go out of his way to call him John.

    Anyone have any thoughts?
     
  8. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Uh. What?

    Obama is overeducated and underexperienced. I have no idea what you're trying desperately to hold onto.
     
  9. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    What? Seriously.

    You don't wage war unless it has been decided that it's a matter of national security. National security matters are non-negotiable. So, to reverse your argument, you're saying you would expect you President to wage a war and then be willing to quit if he thought it was getting a little too unpopular?

    We are raising a nation of crazy people.

    If you go to war, you play for keeps. That's it.

    Ask the Vietnamese. Ho Chi Minh understood this. The hippies and Lyndon Johnson did not.
     
  10. Lil Jules

    Lil Jules Founding Member

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    Pride can be very dangerous. I agree with you on this 100%, and I got the same impression from McCain. To be clear, I'm not saying that the war isn't important, or that I think we should bail immediately--only that we shouldn't let "winning" cloud our judgment as to what the sound decision should be.
     

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