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Obama's Approval Rating Hits 60% in New Poll

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red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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SabanFan said: ↑

AP is a news organization with (like most in the media) an idealogical slant to the left.
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There is no evidence to suggest this. You simply think that anything but FOX is bogus. The AP has been around for 150 years and is highly respected nationally and internationally. Give me an example of AP liberal bias.

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They polled Dems 2 - 1 over Republicans.
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Random samples sometimes do that, you know, including Rasmussens. They just asked their affiliations, they did not target Democrats.

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The poll is a sham and does not reflect Obama's popularity (or lack of same).
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It is not unusual for two polls to differ depending on how the questions are asked. Knee-jerk right-wingers just cannot accept that killing Obama boosted Obama's popularity and are slinging mud. Rasmussen in particular skews its polls by sampling only what they consider "likely voters" not a true sampling of American opinion as does the more highly respected Gallup poll. In fact, they have been highly criticised for conservative bias.

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In 2010, Nate Silver of the New York Times wrote the article “Is Rasmussen Reports biased?”, in which he mostly defended Rasmussen from allegations of bias. However, by later in the year, Rasmussen's polling results diverged notably from other mainstream pollsters, which Silver labeled a 'house effect.' He went on to explore other factors which may have explained the effect such as the use of a likely voter model, and claimed that Rasmussen conducted its polls in a way that excluded the majority of the population from answering. Silver also criticized Rasmussen for often only polling races months before the election, which prevented them from having polls just before the election which could be assessed for accuracy. In response, he wrote that he was “looking appropriate ways to punish pollsters” like Rasmussen who don’t poll in the final days before an election.
After Election night that year, Silver concluded that Rasmussen's polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver's model. He singled out as an example the Hawaii Senate Race, which Rasmussen showed the incumbent 13 points ahead, where he in actuality won by 53 - a difference of 40 points, or "the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998."

TIME has described Rasmussen Reports as a "conservative-leaning polling group". According to Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin political scientist who co-developed Pollster.com, “He [Rasmussen] polls less favorably for Democrats, and that’s why he’s become a lightning rod." Franklin also said: "It’s clear that his results are typically more Republican than the other person’s results.”

The Center For Public Integrity has claimed that Scott Rasmussen was a paid consultant for the 2004 George W. Bush campaign. The Washington Post reported "... the Bush reelection campaign used a feature on his site that allowed customers to program their own polls. Rasmussen asserted that he never wrote any of the questions or assisted Republicans in any way..." The do-it-yourself polling service is used by Democrats as well as Republicans today through a company that licenses Rasmussen’s methodology.
Rasmussen has received criticism over the wording in its polls. Asking a polling question with different wording can affect the results of the poll; the commentators in question allege that the questions Rasmussen ask in polls are skewed in order to favor a specific response. For instance, when Rasmussen polled whether Republican voters thought Rush Limbaugh was the leader of their party, the specific question they asked was: "Agree or Disagree: 'Rush Limbaugh is the leader of the Republican Party -- he says jump and they say how high.'"
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red55, May 12, 2011

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red55 said: ↑

There is no evidence to suggest this. You simply think that anything but FOX is bogus.
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The evidence is in Morris' column. AP historically polls more Dems. This time was just more biased.

The AP has been around for 150 years and is highly respected nationally and internationally.
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Used to have indians canoeing Bayou Teche.

Give me an example of AP liberal bias.
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This poll

Random samples sometimes do that, you know, including Rasmussens. They just asked their affiliations, they did not target Democrats.

It is not unusual for two polls to differ depending on how the questions are asked. Knee-jerk right-wingers just cannot accept that killing Obama boosted Obama's popularity and are slinging mud. Rasmussen in particular skews its polls by sampling only what they consider "likely voters" not a true sampling of American opinion as does the more highly respected Gallup poll. In fact, they have been highly criticised for conservative bias.

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Translation: I'll go with the libral poll because it makes Obama look good.

And the Rasmussen poll I alluded to was in 2008, not 2010.

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red55 said: ↑

There is no evidence to suggest this. You simply think that anything but FOX is bogus. The AP has been around for 150 years and is highly respected nationally and internationally. Give me an example of AP liberal bias.

Random samples sometimes do that, you know, including Rasmussens. They just asked their affiliations, they did not target Democrats.

It is not unusual for two polls to differ depending on how the questions are asked. Knee-jerk right-wingers just cannot accept that killing Obama boosted Obama's popularity and are slinging mud. Rasmussen in particular skews its polls by sampling only what they consider "likely voters" not a true sampling of American opinion as does the more highly respected Gallup poll. In fact, they have been highly criticised for conservative bias.
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Gosh darnit Red, what grade are you in

shane0911, May 12, 2011

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Speaking of Fox, anyone see how pissed off all their hosts are because Michelle Obama invited Common to the White House to read poetry?

John Stewart killed Faux News.....

It's sad that a comedian is more factual than an actual "news" station.

Jon Stewart Slams Fox News, Sean Hannity For Hypocritical 'Common' Outrage (VIDEO)

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Gosh darnit Red, what grade are you in
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See the difference? An honest mistake vs a birther.

Contained Chaos, May 12, 2011

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SabanFan said: ↑

Translation: I'll go with the libral poll because it makes Obama look good.
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i learned a long time ago not to discount polls that give a result different from the others. sometimes that one is dead on, and the results (having been discounted) will bite you in the ass.

that said, it is too early for any of em to mean anything. a lot can, and will, happen, in the next year and a half.

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SabanFan said: ↑

The evidence is in Morris' column.
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Affirming the consequent. Strike one.

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Used to have indians canoeing Bayou Teche.
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Non Sequitor. Strike two.

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This poll
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Irrelevant conclusion. Strike three.

Yer outta here!

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LaSalleAve said: ↑

Speaking of Fox, anyone see how pissed off all their hosts are because Michelle Obama invited Common to the White House to read poetry?
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I actually just read an article about that. It's obvious that the people being so critical really know nothing about Common. Biggest non-story ever.

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shane0911 said: ↑

Gosh darnit Red, what grade are you in
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My grade? 90 degrees, amigo. Plumb and true.

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I have an acquaintance who is a staunch Democrat and voted for Obama but won't play at a certain golf course because there are too many blacks that play there.:dis:
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Golf? The nerve of those gatdamned gangsters.

asignupe99, May 12, 2011

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