Obama weakens and endangers America once again...

Discussion in 'New Orleans Saints Forum' started by Andouille, Apr 17, 2009.

  1. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2004
    Messages:
    12,599
    Likes Received:
    519
    I am pro-live and I do not approve of torture, support the death penalty under limited circumstances (which cannot be equated with abortion) and believe the biggest problem with health care involves the working poor. These are people who have a job, but their employer cannot afford to pay for health care nor can the employee. The poor have medicare which covers quite a bit. If these small businesses could join together into a consorsium they could purchase health care as a group and enjoy the benefits of volumn purchasing.
     
  2. gumborue

    gumborue Painfully Pessimistic

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2003
    Messages:
    10,834
    Likes Received:
    573
    what does this have to do with the argument?

    no one here would blame a woman that had a miscarriage because of natural events. ---we are focusing on unnatural (man-made) events.
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    26,080
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    Did you see the movie Taken? I know it's fictiton but it still illustrates the point. Do you think the hero gets his daughter back by conventional interrogation techniques. In this war on terror, that's the people we are dealing with. If you are opoposed to torture, you are terribly naive and living in a fantasy world.

    No point in debating abortion. It's been done to death, no pun intended..
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,733
    By far, most women who get to choose, choose to have the baby. The abortion rate in the US has dropped every year since 1980 and continues to drop. Pro-lifers are making a louder and louder noise about a smaller and smaller incidence.
     
  5. gumborue

    gumborue Painfully Pessimistic

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2003
    Messages:
    10,834
    Likes Received:
    573
    i dont think pro-lifers are louder than usual. and whatever the yearly # is now---5,000,000 or 1,000,000 or 400,000 are pretty big numbers

    another reason i love O. he knows you cant make most of the country agree on this, so focus on what they can agree on---fewer unwanted pregnancies.
     
  6. JohnLSU

    JohnLSU Tigers

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2007
    Messages:
    6,870
    Likes Received:
    293


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    etc

    etc

    etc

    We are Americans first, Republicans/Democrats second
     

Share This Page