Obama Wants To Raise Your Electric Bill

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  1. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Great post!

    That led to progress, and at some point it was decided that we would be more prosperous as a nation if we made money imaginary. Inflation was embraced and we really got a lot of jingle in our pockets. Now as a nation we've found out that a lot of the money we thought we had is complete bs.
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Wikipedia actually has a fairly balanced overview if you read all of the relevant articles.

    Global Warming
    Global Warming Controversy
    Politics of Global Warming
    Economic of Global Warming
    Scientific Opinion of Climate Change
    Climate Change Denial

    To get to the scientific heart of the matter you must consider the IPCC report.

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) concludes that increasing greenhouse gas concentrations resulting from human activity such as fossil fuel burning and deforestation are responsible for most of the observed temperature increase since the middle of the 20th century. These basic conclusions have been endorsed by more than 45 scientific societies and academies of science,including all of the national academies of science of the major industrialized countries.
     
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  3. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    This isn't news. Everyone except me wants me to be paying more on my eletricity bill...
     
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  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the united nations has some scientists that have weighed in. why a political body like the united nations has any business meddling with science, i have no idea. they have better things to do, like ignoring rwandan genocides or looking away as france makes deals with saddam.
     
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  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Well now, aren't you just super duper special.:dis:

    I get my opinion from reading newsapaper articles about the debate and from listening to the various pundits who feel that they have an informed opinion. I'll be damned if I'm going to pore over scientific journals in order to find out what common sense tells me to be the case. And if you find that to be unfortunate, well, too bad. Maybe Red can help you.
     
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  6. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    Unfortunately, common sense is now an uncommon virtue.
     
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  7. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    you arent really saying anything, just trying to win a thoughtfulness contest.


    the politicians presume to understand how to manipulate the climate with this bill, which is ludicrous.
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Good common sense compliments depth of knowledge, it doesn't replace it. At least not among the wise.
     
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  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    complements with an e.


    anyways, this idea that we are unqualified to make these decisions, it is true. so are the politicians and the scientists. they presume to be able to manipulate the climate? please. the climate does what it does. we cant pass a bill and tax the climate cool, or even be sure that cooler is better.
     
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  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Human pollution in the industrial age has already manipulated the climate. "They" presume to be able to control our own pollution, which is an absolutely doable thing.
     
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