Obama vs Clinton: Who Wins?

The media shine is starting to come off Obama. He's just evading the issues too much and damn sure is limiting the time he spends onstage with Hillary who has better answers. Obama is starting to come of as a talker and not a do'er. You can only count on "hope" for so much before thinking people want to hear some substance. The left-leaning moderates are getting behind Hillary. Obama's crowd is getting sort of a Messiah complex about him, too, which is disturbing to a lot of the right-leaning moderates, who he is losing to McCain.

This race ain't over. He only agreed to two debates head-on with Clinton, but there is an excellent chance he blunders badly in one of them. Eloquence is damned helpful in a debate, but facts, figures, and a well-thought out plan can devastate empty oratory.

 

I'm talking about the media spin. First it was Hillary's experience steamrolling to the nomination, then it was Obama's inspirational leadership taking over, now they are starting to question Obama's substance. Just read the editorials.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1710721,00.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/us/politics/17obama.html

http://bluestarchronicles.com/2008/02/17/the-obama-messiah-phenomenon-also-known-as-obamessiah/

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/?storyID=17871

 

No I plan to remain uncommitted until closer to the election. Right now McCain is closer to the middle, but Clinton is the only other center-leaning candidate. I have some issues with each of them and perhaps time will tell. Obama is too far to the left for me and Huckabee too far to the right.

 

How about Obama getting the Teddy Kennedy endorsement? :lol: You can't get more left-leaning than that. Observers generally agree that Clinton is a centrist and a moderate democrat, as was Bill, and does not cater to the liberal Massachusetts wing of the Democratic party.

The #1 most liberal senator is … Barack Obama?

A lot are voting for Clinton, too. Many republicans personally dislike Clinton and McCain so much that they hail Obama, but I don't think a lot of them are going to actually vote this year. More importantly a lot of democrats are voting for McCain. And a ton of moderates are still undecided.

 

Clinton is a socialist wacko. She's off the deep end. Way past left.

 

Obama dominates Wisconsin. May end up 60-40 by the end of the night (currently 57-42). This is horrible news for Clinton. She had hoped she could keep it to a single digit loss, percentage wise.

Exit polls in Wisconsin showed that women voted 51-49 Clinton. A few weeks ago she was winning by margins as great as 70-30.

This race is effectively over as long as Obama stays on message and doesn't do anything stupid. He won't.

 

Interesting stats on the current trend of voters on the democratic side:

On Tuesday, Obama captured 53 percent of Wisconsin's white voters compared to 41 percent of those voting on Super Tuesday. He won 48 percent of women in Wisconsin compared to 41 percent on Super Tuesday.

He increased his standing with white seniors by 8 points, from 31 percent to 39 percent since Super Tuesday. He split the non-college-graduate vote 50-50 with Clinton compared to getting 42 percent of it on Super Tuesday.

Obama won almost half of the Catholic vote compared to a third of it two weeks ago, and he did the same thing with the rural vote.

He also seems to be taking the economy away from Clinton as an issue. He won 44 percent of those voters who said that was the most important issue for them on Super Tuesday, but he won 55 percent of those voters on Tuesday.

If the demographic trends continue, it doesn't look good in Texas. Obama won the Latino vote in Maryland and Virginia last week, a segment of the electorate that was solidly in the Clinton camp at the beginning of the race.

Polls in Texas show the contest there being a dead heat, but they showed the same thing in Wisconsin.