Obama vs Clinton: Who Wins?

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  1. BrettStah

    BrettStah Tiger Fan

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    I just watched a speech of his from a few days ago, and he actually did not simply say "let's bring the troops home". He said we should as carefully withdraw from Iraq as we carelessly went into Iraq. He said that it would probably take about 16 months, depending on how many brigades were actually in Iraq when he became President.

    But something to keep in mind - no (successful) politician that I know of gives all details of every single proposal/plan/idea every single time that he/she talks about that proposal/plan/idea. If the politician is giving a speech on a specific topic only (for example, on health-care reform), and he/she has 60 minutes to discuss it, then you will get a lot of details. If that same candidate is given 90 seconds in a debate to explain health-care reform ideas, the details will be lacking.
     
  2. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    More superdelegates have switched over to Obama's side. Clinton's once 100 superdelegate lead is now down to about 70.
     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    We will see what happens tonight in the debate.
     
  4. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    There is a lot of excitement in Texas right now concerning Obama. He gave a one-hour long speech to a packed house at Reunion Arena in Dallas yesterday (17,000 inside, with large crowds outside.) He had it set up in the round and held a microphone and talked to the crowd. The excerpts I saw were VERY Presidential--he's coming on very strong.

    I had several students whose parents took them down to Reunion to see him. I have another student whose father is running for Congress, and he had a face-to-face with Obama. Tori said her dad was incredibly impressed.

    Obama is picking up steam and looking like the only candidate that can actually excite the public.
     
  5. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    The race is effectively over. Clinton can't stem the tide in time for the Mar 4 primaries. Her base is eroding faster than the Louisiana Delta.
     
  6. BrettStah

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    Here is the Clinton strategy, in my opinion:

    First, they do not realistically think that they can win enough delegates to have more delegates going into the convention.

    BUT... they hope to have a string of victories (even if the delegate totals don't change much due to the way they are apportioned), most importantly in OH, TX, and PA, and then hopefully be able to convince enough super-delegates that she now has the momentum, and is the better candidate to face off against McCain in an election that may very well be a national security themed election in November. They would also love to have some sort of major misstep by Obama, of course.

    Will that happen? Not likely, but there is a chance of it. Sort of like being down by 3-4 touchdowns in the 4th quarter - it's technically possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

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    Unless she is Les Miles and can comeback in the 4th.
     
  8. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    Hillary has made something from nothing before. Maybe Clinton can come up with delegates like she did with dollars from cattle futures.
     
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  9. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    The Teamsters Union has endorsed Obama.

    Another blow to Clinton and the blue-collar states like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

    I now think she will lose BOTH Texas and Ohio.
     
  10. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Bill Clinton has now come out publicly to say that Hillary MUST win Texas or she is done.

    Way to go Bill. This is worse than when you got that hummer. Hillary should soon divorce you. You screwed up her campaign. It was your stupid campaigning leading up to the South Carolina primary that turned this race completely around. Clinton was well on her way to victory and would have done so by the time Super Tuesday was complete, if not for ole Bill.
     

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