Crime Obama says "top of the mornin' to ya" to servicemen

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  1. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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  3. red55

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    He was probably stoned. Or annoyed that they picked the two shortest Marines available. And where is that red carpet, boys.
     
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    It's an unsurprising but mostly harmless gaffe. I take more issue with this comment he made during his speech yesterday before the UN assembly...

    "In a summer marked by instability in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, I know the world also took notice of the small American city of Ferguson, Missouri". Wow. So somehow shooting down a passenger plane, invading another country, and beheading innocents is on par with the events in Ferguson? What a total kiss ass loser mentality.
     
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    Why? Did he look like this?
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Can't you see that he was drawing a favorable comparison between what passes for unrest in the US versus the terrorism and insurgencies in the Middle east and and Ukraine.

    And in context, Obama took on the muslim world, criticized them for inaction, and called upon them to step up and deal with their own problems to deserve American support. Pointing a finger at our own problems helps temper the arrogance that is perceived from such a lecture. But it cannot be missed that our "unrest" problems amount to a hill of beans versus the muslim world's problems.
     
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    No, I don't see it that way. The two elements do not belong in any form of comparison whatsoever.

    Took on the muslim world did he? He discussed "violent extremism", but not Islamic extremism. And then went on to talk about Ferguson. They are not comparable....period.

    How in hell can calling out the brutal and evil nature of islamic extremists be considered arrogance?

    And frankly, he went on to blame the world for our problems. That sounds arrogant.
    “And like every country, we continually wrestle with how to reconcile the vast changes wrought by globalization…"
     
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    No he was stoned so he ran out in front of an airplane to wave his finger at the pilot while it was running on the runway.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, others do.

    Exactly the point that you missed. Look at how he followed it up . . .

    But we welcome the scrutiny of the world – because what you see in America is a country that has steadily worked to address our problems and make our union more perfect. America is not the same as it was 100 years ago, 50 years ago, or even a decade ago. Because we fight for our ideals, and are willing to criticize ourselves when we fall short. Because we hold our leaders accountable, and insist on a free press and independent judiciary. Because we address our differences in the open space of democracy – with respect for the rule of law; with a place for people of every race and religion; and with an unyielding belief in the ability of individual men and women to change their communities and countries for the better.
    Pointing out that the Middle East does NOT respect these values like they should.

    No one misunderstands who he was talking about. We are not fighting Islam itself, such would be futile and he has to make that clear. But the muslim world was challenged to take responsibility.

    "No God condones this terror. No grievance justifies these actions. There can be no reasoning – no negotiation – with this brand of evil. The only language understood by killers like this is the language of force."

    "Second, it is time for the world – especially Muslim communities – to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of al Qaeda and ISIL."

    "Today, it is violence within Muslim communities that has become the source of so much human misery. It is time to acknowledge the destruction wrought by proxy wars and terror campaigns between Sunni and Shia across the Middle East."

    "I’d like to speak directly to young people across the Muslim world. You come from a great tradition that stands for education, not ignorance; innovation, not destruction; the dignity of life, not murder. Those who call you away from this path are betraying this tradition, not defending it.

    "Ultimately, the task of rejecting sectarianism and extremism is a generational task – a task for the people of the Middle East themselves. No external power can bring about a transformation of hearts and minds."

    To the rest of the world, almost everything we do is arrogant. You must accept this.

    You don't get this either. He's calling them out for not modernizing their medieval religious and political systems.

    "It is the task of all great religions to accommodate devout faith with a modern, multicultural world. No children – anywhere – should be educated to hate other people. There should be no more tolerance of so-called clerics who call upon people to harm innocents because they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim."

    "Look at the young British Muslims, who responded to terrorist propaganda by starting the “notinmyname” campaign, declaring – “ISIS is hiding behind a false Islam.”
     
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    Heard it all before. It's just words.
     

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