Obama or Clinton?

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  1. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    "In 1982, a commission chaired by former North Carolina Governor Jim Hunt created superdelegates. Under the original Hunt plan, superdelegates were 30% of all delegates, but when it was finally implemented in 1984, they were 14%. The number has steadily increased, and today they are approximately 20%.[6]"

    so says the all knowing wiki.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate
     
  2. luvdimtigers

    luvdimtigers Founding Member

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    only if your canidate loses.

    I bet the republicans loved the electoral college in 2000.
     
  3. CajunlostinCali

    CajunlostinCali Booger Eatin Moron

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    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    i think you could be wrong simply because whoever gets the democratic nomination will bring up all the things mccain has said to court the conservative base of the republican party and the religious right. a lot of people will hold their nose in voting one way or another, but once the election get focused on mccain and whoever the dem nominee is, a lot of dems are gonna decide their own kind is the lesser of two evils.

    i saw the same thing in 02 here in the governors race. the dem runoff was nasty and bitter. i think the pubs thought that the supporters of the candidate that lost the runoff would stay home. but once the election focused on the differences of the pub and dem, the dems that were bitter from their own primary stepped up and voted in the general election anyway.
     
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  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Clinton is finishing strong.

     
  6. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    If I recall correctly, you have stated before that you cant trust polls.
    I could be wrong, but I dont think so.
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You are confusing me with those who argue with the polls I post. Polls are indicators, not predictors. But they do have value. Dismissing them automatically is a mistake.
     
  8. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Ok you are right, I agree with your assesment, however, they are a snapshot in time. These same polls a month ago, had McCain ahead and Obama ahead. Finishing strong is a strong statement, being that their are at least 8 contest to go in this primary season.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You have to consider it the home stretch, even Obama's people have stopped expecting Clinton to just give up and let them win. Superdelegates are reading these polls, too. Obama seems to have plateaued and Hillary is still gaining. Leading the race for the most time isn't the prize . . . crossing the finish line first is.

    Bill Clinton trailed for much of the primary season, too, but came on strong and won the nomination. Early in the contest, voters are often swayed by inspirational oratory and charmed by personal style. As the election draws near, they begin to consider the more important factors of executive capability, intelligence, grasp of the issues, and familiarity with the facts. They start to consider who has the most ability to perform as president.

    I don't expect a convention fight, but this contest will go on until the convention. And then one will bargain with the other to influence the campaign platform in return for throwing their full support to beating the republican in November.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

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    we cant go off the past in this contest, although this is something new to me, it seems to be alot different from past primaries. Superdelegates do read those polls, however, if thats any indication after her big win in Pennsylvania. More supers have endoresed him, rather than her. I think the count since that primary is 6 to 2.
     

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