Obama not helping the poor

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  1. Tigerbnd05

    Tigerbnd05 National Champs 2003 2007

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    So your saying the rising gas prices, rationing of gas around the nation, lines for gas at the gas stations, etc. in the 70's was a result of peak Louisiana production and had nothing to do with the advent of OPEC and everyone saying they were rationing because of "Peak Oil"?

    I think your smarter than that. And while your at it, you notice you defined it as peak production in Louisiana, not peak oil in Louisiana right?
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Don't lie. I've stated many times that peak oil will solve SOME of the global warming issues. It obviously won't stop coal-power power plants which is a major problem and is increasing.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I didn't say that at all. You made it up. :insane:

    Peak Oil is a global phenomenon. Both production and proven reserves have long since peaked in Louisiana.
     
  4. Tigerbnd05

    Tigerbnd05 National Champs 2003 2007

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    Your right you didn't say it, you implied it with your answer to my statement or you intentionally didn't leave a complete answer. Either way your answer is not sufficient to counter my point that the masses thought we were staring peak oil in the face during the 70s.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What are you talking about? The 70's oil crisis was not about Peak Oil. It was because of the Arab Oil Embargo. :huh:

    What "masses thought we were staring peak oil in the face during the 70s."?

    Perhaps you should start a new thread and try to document this claim.
     
  6. cajun_tiger

    cajun_tiger Founding Member

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    RED please post a link to back up all your statements if not your lying. Thank you! :D:D
     
  7. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Red, what exactly does the term "peak oil" mean? Does it mean that the total supply of oil in the world has diminished and that there is less and less oil to be discovered and recovered?

    Recently a huge oil deposit was discovered in the Gulf of Mexico but it will be years before the recovery and production of that oil will actually occur.

    The oil is in very deep water and only recently has the technology been able to utilize that discovery. There has to be a hell of a lot of undiscovered oil in locations in all of the world's oceans that will become recoverable as the technology to do so advances.

    That, combined with the advances in hybrid cars and whatever the future advances inn technology will bring that will diminished the world's need for oil even as it continues to be available in vast quantities. Oil will be available for far longer than any of us will be alive.

    A year ago we were all paying $4 a gallon for gasoline. Yesterday I filled my tank for $2.27 a gallon. Does that mean that there is more ol now than there was a year ago or does it mean that the demand for oil has diminished?.

    The technology exists to utilize alcohol and bio diesel to power internal combustion engines but is that the answer? The diversion of agricultural products from food to fuel means that there is less production of food for humans and livestock. There is only so much farmland. Do we produce fuel at the cost of making food prices rise of do we produce food and let fuel prices rise until an alternative technology reaches the stage where it can take the pressure off of the need to use oil for fuel?

    For the short term (next 20 years) we should allow drilling off the coasts of California and on the east coast to recover the oil that is known to be there.

    For the long term I believe that it is possible to use the process of electrolysis to fill the tank of your vehicle with water and break it down into hydrogen and oxygen to power your car.

    I have seen videos on youtube where this has already been done by some Japanese engineers. (Its late and I am not going to look the video up but feel free to search for it)
     
  8. shaqazoolu

    shaqazoolu Concentrated Awesome

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