Red, Red, Red. Amazing that one of the most intelligent people on this forum can say something that obtuse. We don't know what the framers had in mind? We only have the document? OK, I give you the Bill of Rights.... First Amendment - Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion....etc Second Amendment - A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Third Amendment- No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner,...etc. Fourth Amendment - The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation,...etc. Fifth Amendment - No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, ....etc. Sixth Amendment - In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State ...etc. Seventh Amendment - In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, ...etc. Eighth Amendment - Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. Ninth Amendment - The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Tenth Amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. That's ten out of ten for you, each one doing one of two things....defining what the people can do, or what the government can not do. "Less government"? No, those words are not there. Then again, neither are the words "separation of church and state," but the left has no qualms about making that interpretation, do they? They may not have said "less government", but they acted on the premise of limiting government in the case of the ten issues they felt were so important, they were the first to be defined. You are splitting hairs, just for the sake of arguing with someone who disagrees with you (and who happens to be right).
In 1975 The High for the Dow Jones was 860. A 1st class stamp was a dime. Gasoline: $.57/gal, dozen eggs $.77, gallon of milk was $1.57. 35 years later the cost of medical care has gone up? OH MY GOD!!! THE HUMANITY!! QUICK...DIG A HOLE...GET IN IT!!!
Thank you. Which amendment is it that says that the government cannot reform health care? Exactly. Which was what had been suggested. This is an assumption on your part, of course. Congress was enacted by this Constituition to create laws and they have made literally thousands and thousands of them--All constitutional. What specifically does health reform do that is unconstitutional and threatens our fundamental rights? I happen to disagree with the statement made and said why I do. It is martin that argues only for argument's sake. Whoever you believe to be right matters not to me.
Health reform in general may not but the current plan does. How about uninhibited, real-time access to your bank account to start? I agree that health care needs reform but the current plan sucks huge balls.
I can take two approaches to that question: a. No part. Which part of my post says it can't? or, if you want to go truly literally on the Constitution.... b. Tenth Amendment - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Since the power to dispense, regulate, or reform health care is not in the Constitution, it must be upon the states, or the people, to do so.
Well, that does sound alarming. Two questions are in order: 1. What are you referring to? 2. What amendment makes it unconstitutional?
1. It's in the proposed bill because I saw it. I don't have the inclination to root it out for you though. 2. You cannot possibly be arguing for the proposition that unwanted Government access to personal bank accounts would somehow be constitutional.
The federalist position was disingenuous even back in the day.... Federalist Papers Index [FONT=arial, helvetica][SIZE=-1]The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. [/SIZE][/FONT]
1. Page 59 of Obamacare. 2. The 4th amendment. Pretty sure you need a warrant to access that type of information if it isn't your own.
