Obama as commander-in-chief

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  1. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    agree. he speaks mo betta than the rest but his actual plans ring hollow. Hillary even moreso.

    i guess i am not voting unless its a write-in.
     
  2. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    With all due respect to JF and the Ks, had he lived a bit longer, his might have been one of the least impressive terms of his generation. He had a few successes, but he had a fair number of failures and the scandals were just starting to heat up. Some of that might have been due to political inexperience at the Executive level.

    JFK's legacy is more about what might have been that about what actually was. He left a pretty big mess for LBJ to clean up - while sitting on the john. :grin:

    I think Red has a point. I also wonder if in the beginning, Obama and his folks thought he'd seriously have a shot at it this early. Woinder if they were thinking, let's get a national campaign under our belt, let's get some groundswell and some media coverage, then let's take the country by storm in 2016, or 2012 if the unexpected were to happen in Nov. Just a thought.
     
  3. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    When you say he doesn't have a plan you imply that he's just going to wing it. You say he isn't pragmatic like all of his ideas are unattainable. I don't really agree with his plans for big government, but I don't get how they are any less realistic than anything Clinton proposes.
     
  4. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Lets just see how the next debate goes.
     
  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    thats a bet, I do feel Hillary has done a bit better in some debates than he has.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Which is why McCain, with the longest track record, is the easiest to analyze and predict. Clinton and Huckabee have half the political record, but it's still more than Obama. The last time someone came out of nowhere and won because of disillusionment of a failed republican President, we ended up with Jimmy Carter. And he had been a Naval Academy graduate and a Governor of Georgia.
     
  7. BrettStah

    BrettStah Tiger Fan

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    Based on the way he assembled and organized his campaign, I'd have to say that his goal was to win the nomination this time. He's had people on the ground in most/all states well ahead of Clinton, including post-Super-Duper-Tuesday states.
     
  8. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Lord knows we certianly don't need any more of that tomfoolery
     
  9. luvdimtigers

    luvdimtigers Founding Member

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    I'm uncommited right now, I have to get a lot more info, and it's a long way to Nov. with all that said, I worry that while Obama has high ideals, the parallell with Carter scares me. Carter is a person of high charactor, completely inept as a president, could not get anything done.

    While some compare him to Kennedy, make no mistake, Kennedy was a realist disgused as a idealist.
     
  10. Bandit88

    Bandit88 Old Enough to Know Better

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    Kennedy was certainly not what contemporary Liberals would immediately recognize as one of their own.

    But 50 years is a long time. Not much in America is as it was then, for better or for worse.
     

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