Obama and Healthcare reform

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  1. OkieTigerTK

    OkieTigerTK Tornado Alley

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    actually, its dollar for dollar. the pound is british. :grin:
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I was talking about the representatives. They were elected to change the way the republicans ran things and are a majority according to how Americans voted, not anybody's poll.

    People were unhappy with the republican mismanagement of the wars and the economy and voted them out. If Americans are unhappy with this health bill, they can vote the democrats out. And then the republicans must face the unpopularity of Congress again until they get voted out once more.

    It has always worked like this.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Re: Links to Full Text of Health Care Bills

    Amigo, there is exactly one drop of 0.3 percent on the graph.
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Re: Links to Full Text of Health Care Bills

    So you're saying the downward trend in global warming is a sign that the threat is over?
     
  5. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    I believe America voted the incumbents out more than voting the liberal ideology in. I also believe America is waking up and understanding this group is far worse than anything we've ever seen in this country. People aren't simply afraid of change...they're afraid that Obama's "transformation" of America will leave us with something that's no longer AMERICA.

    As every day passes it appears the people who questioned Obama's true motives during the election were correct. Some here said these people were alarmists but now they're looking more like visionaries.

    In my opinion Obama has surpassed Carter as the worst president ever. Maybe he can recover but if he now moves to Cap & Trade, he'll definitely be the worst of all time. :dis:
     
  6. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Workmens Comp is a tradeoff. If an employee is injured, he gets paid regardless of fault and he cannot sue his employer. Good safety programs and less injured workers means lower premiums, but it's not cheap.


    Then dems are history
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    So maybe the problem isn't insurance companies, its wages for Americans. The cost of everything has gone up dramatically yet, workers wages haven't. If Americans were getting paid right, maybe none of this would be a problem.

    As far as the uninsured people who do jack **** but sit on a couch and collect checks, when they could be working, screw them, i don't really give a damn about them. Its working Americans, who do contribute, who do pay taxes, that are getting shafted are the ones i am concerned with.

    On another note, being that the infrastructure in this country is going to sh!t, or has already, why aren't there programs for the jobless to work on fixing America's roads, bridges, tunnels, etc.
     
  8. HalloweenRun

    HalloweenRun Founding Member

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    Other than the catastrophic effect that some of the dem passed legislation may or may not have on us, the battle lines are really drawn and we will find out.

    I was and could not be more ANTI W. Bush administration lies and corruption, and would have voted for anyone or thing other than continuing the Bush disaster.

    I do not think OBAMA is anywhere near as bad as you guys make him out to be. Certainly the "healthcare" issue will be watered down to flacidity before anything really happens, but ....

    The choice for the next big election is really crystalizing. Either the dems have won big or they have lost big with the so-called health care bill. I don't think it will be close, one way or the other.

    But..everyone needs to lean back in their foxholes a bit. It is not worth having a heart attack about provisions that are years away if they occur at all.

    The BEST THING FOR THE COUNTRY would be a good, moderate Republican candidate that can appeal to the masses without the so called litmus test of issues x, y or z. A reasonable and responsible plan to address today's so-called health care ills would not hurt, either.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Indeed. And If independents switch votes back to republicans, it doesn't mean that they embrace the ultra-conservative ideology either. They are trying to put brakes on the huge swings from right to left.

    And they won't take long to change their minds once more when the republican agenda starts smelling. The stench of the last one still lingers. Sarah Palin will sink them.

    More and more indpendents desire a third party between the extreme ideology of the current ones.
     
  10. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    I suspect that if you have to pay for some of Obama's spending habits next year this time you will be singing like a canary.
    On the same day Dem Bill Ritter announced his new energy economy here in colorado Excel announced a rate hike!
    Why should they work?
    We have just given them free healthcare that isn't free.
    You and I will pay for it along with their food stamps and any additional funds they get from our taxes.
    The community campaigner and complainer already took care of this with the stimulus.
     

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