Obama and Healthcare reform

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    anyone watching the open sessions right now?
     
  2. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    thats ignorant. this society depends on and creates a low-wage class that cannot reasonably afford adequate health insurance/health care. they cannot all "work themselves up"--it is impossible, even if they all tried equally hard.
     
  3. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    How is it ignorant if he said he's speaking from personal experience?


    And it's impossible to work themselves up because they have no idea how to do it. And that's the fault of the entire welfare system
     
  4. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Rex,

    I'm trying to understand what you're saying. What I interpret (correct me if I'm wrong), is that you have no problem with an insurance company simply dropping a client after he has paid premiums for 20 years just because he is now sick? That's what Red is asking and you keep responding that it should be up to the company. Some regulation is in order to be sure that a private company lives up to their end of the agreement, which in this case would be to continue to pay for healthcare for its sick client. Do you disagree?
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    An insurance policy is a contract. The terms are clearly spelled out. I don't believe there is a provision which allows the Company to arbitrarily drop you if you get sick. If there was, I would not sign that contract. Most policies have limits. If the limit is up, you are no longer covered. If you had done your due diligence, you would not have been in that situation.
     
  6. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    You're looking at it all wrong. Yes, our society employs people of meager/no means but that does not mean we hold them down. What do you propose? Should we give CEO jobs to people with no education or drive just so they can be successful? Nobody is given anything in this world but everyone in our country, has an opportunity to be wildly successful. Some have easier paths than others, but everyone has an opportunity. Having said that, there will always be the haves and the have nots, but this is what makes us a prosperous nation.
     
  7. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I understand that but Red's contention is that it happens and happens often because there is not enough regulation helping the little guy in this situation. While I don't know if this actually happens or not (as I stated previously), I do find it to be a problem if it is happening and from Rex's responses it appears to me that he does not, but I could be wrong about that.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Well, I'm telling you that Red is full of beans on this one. Insurance claims practices are highly regulated and a company would never get away with arbitrarily dropping coverage.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Hey, I back up my position with evidence instead of rhetoric.

     
  10. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    "The great myth is that there are millions living in abject poverty without the opportunity to work themselves up out of their situation. It's all ridiculously wrong. People live with the consequences of the choices they make."

    im saying this is ignorant.
     

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