i have a solution. you guys have a praying contest and both ask jeebus as hard as you can to reveal the truth to the other. just kidding you can't do that because i would secretly thwart your plans by praying that jeebus never did you any such favor. and i am sure i can pray circles around the both of you.
I understand but I have to be a little bit sarcastic as to how anyone can believe in the big bang theory is beyond me. I'm still waiting for the details for this theory to be released so I can then know how the world came into existance as we know it. :grin: As far as the age of the earth is concerned, like I said in an earlier post here scientists are always revising "facts" and are finding mistakes all the time in discovering the truth about the world in which we live.
I'm telling you, read "The Science of God" by Gerald Scroeder. You can probably find it in a library. I know it's at the Baton Rouge library. 7 days = 15 billion years. Demonstrated mathematically. Great book.
science isnt a matter of faith. big bang isnt a fact. it is a theory. it is true scientists often reverse theories. but they don't just make stuff up and call it true either. or "interpret" facts from the ancient magic book, and then argue about what the magic book meant, then base their lives on it. ignorance of the universe is something we have to accept.
There isn't any room for ignorance of the universe in my beliefs :shock: :grin: BTW, I posted a link, proof of a great flood a few posts ago!
Sorry Sourdough, that highly biased article is filled with nonsense. There is no science in it at all. "...animals came from rocks..." is just one of the more ludicrous assertations. WTF is that about? Evolution doesn't maintain that animals came from rocks, but that they evolved from lower forms of life.
Geological and paleontological science has proven the occurence of several such floods and other major geological cataclysms over periods of millions of years. My original post, and I still stand behind it, is that the truth of the origin of Earth and the universe and makind and life in general is a mixture of both Creationism and evolution. I personally don't have a problem with the two co-existing side by side. I think God created the universe and life and then allowed it to take it's natural course. I don't think it illogical or silly to accept this tenet based upon what we know. To make the statement that either one is absolutely correct is just plain ignorance. To me only one part of this whole argument is undeniable and that is that God created it. To say as the Creationists do that the Earth and universe is only a few thousand years old is absolute lunacy to me. This is a total refutation of scientific evidence as dinosaur bones and tracks and even the stars in the sky. Much of the light we see from these stars is hundreds and thousands of years old, being the distances they are away from us. And sorry, but I guess I missed the part on that link about the dino bones. And LSUsupafan, I guess the Earth is still the center of the universe and the church still burns and tortures heretics. Also there are no women in the church, women still cover their heads and you still don't eat meat on Friday. Also you will still go to Hell if you jerk off if you are married but not if you are single. Plus you as a recipient still aren't allowed under penalty of mortal sin to touch the Communion Host. Yeah, you're right, Nothing's changed in the Catholic church.
from my perspective it is amusing that you can dismiss some superstitions as silly, all the while advocating your own personal version of the magical fables. seeing some rituals as silly, while advocating the eucharist, a ceremony where we symboiically cannibalize the son of the grand wizard.
LOL at Red55. Its just some sarcasum as far as I'm concerned, I don't believe that animals came from rocks but I also don't believe in the big bang theory and I do believe in god and that he created the earth and the whole bit. I do believe their was a little bit of truth in that article however. :grin: Like this: The Bible indicates that there was no rain before the flood but "there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground." If there was no rain, then storms and even wind were unknown. In this ideal climate, vegetation and animal life would flourish, so much so that when the flood demolished it, great deposits of flesh and fiber were compressed and converted to huge oil reservoirs and layers of coal hundreds of feet thick. As scientists make further discoveries that fit the model of pre-flood paradise followed by catastrophic destruction, the evolution world view gets stretched to the ludicrous.