North Texas- LSU Game Thread

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  1. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    I think everyone on this board knows that the redshirt rule for players that have played is for injuries only. We also know that it is used for all players injured or not because the NCAA does not investigate the injuries. If you don't know that then you haven't been paying attention.
    Francois will not recieve a redshirt from the NCAA because this was supposed to be our first game, you can bet the house on it.


    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The third game cutoff is based on the percentage of games the team plays, you need to go to the NCAA website and read the rules.
     
  2. tiger777

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    hey to say it karl but i have to agree with chosen one on this one. I was pissed when JA even played. He didn't need to and Carey and JV could use the confidence booster. If we needed JA then put him in.


    Now JR and JD should have never played after the first half was over unless they had to.


    OH and for u people saying miles has a decision to make then apparently you didn't watch the game just listened to it. Flynns first pass to XC was terrible. XC made a great adjustment to it and the ball was thrown into traffic. His pass to benny was not a great pass either, not too bad but not great. The DB was playing like 10 yds off bennie and turned and ran at the snap of the ball. MF just threw it to the outside when bennie turned the ball was also late. To me being at the game there was a big difference between JR and MF. Got to give MF credit though he played well and does one thing way better then JR and that is that when he sees somebody open he throws right away unlike JR. Also on the int JR threw, he stared the receiver down worse then I have ever seen him do. The guy who got the INT came a long ways across the field to get it. These 2 things is something he need to work on.

    Was very please with our performance tonight by both first string and second string. We must cut out the penalties though before the BAMA game.
     
  3. tiger777

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    sorry TT didn't know it was based on percentage just knew it was 3rd game played. SO does that mean next year that they can play more because we will have the 12th game?
     
  4. tiger777

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    oh and TT i would put it at 60-70% of people on this site don't understand the redshirt rule. i think the ones that do are the minority here.
     
  5. TigerWins

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    This is the one area that confuses me. There is a 20% rule, which I always thought of as being the first 3 games. Herman Johnson received a medical redshirt last year, but played in the 4th game against MSU.

    Herman Johnson's Bio:

    Don't know if this is an exception or if the rule means you can't play in more than 20% of games, regardless when those games or played. He only played in 2 games.
     
  6. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    This comes up every year, I had a link to the specific page in the huge NCAA Division I manual but they keep moving it each year. I'm still searching for the exact page that was discussed last year and if I can find it I will post a link. The redshirt rule is definitely not used as it is written and needs to be clarified if for nothing other than ease of discussion. :hihi: :hihi: :hihi:
     
  7. cajdav1

    cajdav1 Soldiers are real hero's

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    You're right, it should be completely rewritten, first giving all players 5 years to play 4 and then get very specific on medical redshirts. And then they could get rid of all the amendments.
     
  8. Geekboy

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    I haven't gone through the red shirt topics here completely focused so don't start yelling, but.....wasn't there a discussion at one point where the NCAA was going to give players five years of eligibility regardless of injuries, when they played in the season before injuries, etc.?

    I heard the rule was so ambiguous that they were just going to say flat out.......everyone has five years of eligibility regardless.....injuries or no injuries.

    Didn't John Bond at Mississippi State play for 25 years there?
     
  9. tiger777

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    ok here is the rule guys.


    By Greg Johnson
    The NCAA News

    "Medical redshirt" is a term that has crept into the vernacular of intercollegiate athletics through the years, even though the words aren't officially in the NCAA bylaws.

    So what is the definition of this phrase that doesn't exist?

    Actually, most who use it are confusing it with other terminology. For the most part when someone says "medical redshirt," they are referring to a student-athlete who is seeking to gain an extra year of eligibility because he or she suffered an injury or illness that prevented him or her from competing.

    The official term for that, though, is the "hardship waiver."

    Since many people throughout the membership aren't even sure of the correct name of the waiver, it's not surprising that what it takes to earn one also is hard for student-athletes, coaches, administrators and athletic trainers to fully comprehend.

    In Division I, a student-athlete can apply for a hardship waiver if a season-ending injury or illness occurs in the first half of the season. The student-athlete, however, must not have participated in more than two contests or dates of competition or 20 percent (whichever is greater) of the institution's scheduled contests.
     

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