Iraq, Vietnam anyone? It's completely possible...likely no... a step would give the UN or some other world organization control. If NK launches a nuke towards anything theres no way countries in the world would be against firing one back. So the 200k + civilians in Japan were guilty? Of what? Due to the "spineless hippies" that run the country. IRAQ? Congrats, you are a member of "people today." Should we throw you into the looney bin for wanting to bomb the living hell out of enemy countries regardless of the civilian casualties. To make a "suitcase nuke" you need a exteremly advanced nuclear program...one NK does not have....like the US/Russia . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suitcase_bomb I can see the difference. But its perspective. Sure thats a drastic example, but they THOUGHT it was right killing civilians. Just like you think its ok to kill civilians.
So the Holocaust isn't that big of a deal to you? I visited the National Museum in DC a few years back and shed a few tears to say the least. They killed German citizens. We were at war with Germany. Those citizens should of stood up and overthrew the Nazi's....might as well of nuked Germany because they were ALL at fault right? lol something we agree on. I was talking about your stance that no other nation should develop nuclear tech. With the rise of education and world wide telecommunications the world has become more peaceful than it used to be.
Like I said..they should let us call the shots more often. In both of these examples, it is political figures here at home that screwed it up. Let's just hand them the keys. Of not stopping their own leaders when they had the chance. Stop feeling sorry for them. They died for their country. No I'm not. I'm saltyone and disagree with just about everybody. Not yet (Maybe. Who the hell really knows?). And, what's to keep NK from selling the means to make such a bomb to a more "advanced" enemy of ours? What's to keep NK from using the money that we will eventually give them, in the hope of buying peace, to purchase such a weapon? Nothing.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Stop! You're killing me. You don't really believe that the world is "more peaceful than it used to be" do you?
Who is us? Political figures? Isn't the President in charge of the Armed Forces? Whats wrong with nuclear control? "In 1945 Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives." - Eisenhower "The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace. The atomic bomb played no decisive part, from a purely military point of view, in the defeat of Japan." Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Commander in Chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet. "The use of [the atomic bombs] at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender." Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman. "Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey's opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated." -United States Strategic Bombing Survey Whos a more advanced enemy of ours? The only two countries with suitcase nuke capability are the US and Russia. I don't see the NK's buying a mini-nuke from Russia. I'm sure theres a few nukes pointed towards NK from Russia with a big red button in Moscow.
Compare how many world superpowers are at war between now and 60+ years ago. Nuclear weapons were a major factor in the cold war so don't use that as a point.
You're starting to sound a lot like rex. Misquotes, and speculation are his tactics. I could pull up hundreds of quotes saying the exact opposite of what these say. Some, most likely, by the same people who you quote above. History has recorded the fact that dropping the bombs saved countless American lives, and ended the war. Period.
misquotes? Not here. Speculation? Those are quotes from some very important people....a president....the comander in chief of the Pacific Fleet, Cheif of Staff to Truman, and a Survey. Sure it might of saved American lives....but it killed Japanese civilians at our expense.
Another thread where genocide is the choice means of foreign policy. If it were up to salty there would be no Asians or Muslims.
