North Korea and Iran

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  1. KajunKenny

    KajunKenny Founding Member

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    Some of you people watch to much CNN. NK isn't going to be a threat to us. These clowns couldn't hit China with a NUK. Remember the failed test earlier this year? China is going to deal with NK.

    Pull out of IRAQ? Your kidding right? The only we are ever getting out of IRAQ is if we break it up into ATLEAST 3 different countries. IRAQ will never be stable otherwise.

    Iran - well frankly, Iran needs a good boot to the ass. They have been financing Al Queda and other such groups for years. The USA knows this but turns a blind eye because of the oil.

    I know I said in another thread that we need to stop playing "world police", but if we are gonna let's do it right and stop trying to please everyone.

    USA to do list:
    1. Take out NK and let China or SK take over the country.
    2. Remove the royal family in Iran.
    3. Seperate Iraq into 3 countrys and make everyone happy.
    4. The USA should attack Cuba and remove that Government. Don't think to much of the world will complain about this move. Having an unstable Government so close to our borders will come back to haunt us sooner or later.
    5. Attack Canada for lumber and ice - Kidding, this is an inside joke..


    I am sure there are more but im watching PTI on espn right now and cant think! lol
     
  2. lsugrad00

    lsugrad00 Founding Member

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    You really think that the US could just throw a switch and stop importing from China?

    I personally don't see how an alliance with a fledgling economy like India would replace the economic juggernaut that China has become in the past 15 years. I really wish China had some viable competition, but it's hard to compete with Chinese slave labor and currency manipulation.

    Cutting off Chinese trade could have immediate devastating effects economically and politically in the US . If the Chinese economy goes in the crapper and the masses get pissed they just kill them to shut them up.
     
  3. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    actually it is WIDELY believed that Israel has.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_Incident

    http://www.thebulletin.org/article_nn.php?art_ofn=so02norris

    "It is Israeli policy to neither confirm nor deny that it possesses nuclear weapons, although it is generally accepted by friend and foe alike that Israel has been a nuclear state for several decades. Its declaratory policy states: "Israel will not be the first country to introduce nuclear weapons in the Middle East," but its actual deployment and employment policies are secret. A January 2001 Pentagon report, Proliferation: Threat and Responses, omits Israel from its review of the Middle East, but a 1991 U.S. Strategic Air Command study lists Israel, India, and Pakistan as "de facto" nuclear weapon states. Estimates of the Israeli nuclear arsenal range from 75--200 weapons, comprising bombs, missile warheads, and possibly non-strategic (tactical) weapons.


    who's to say if things wern't going Israel's way with the unrest in the middle eat, they wouldn't use a nuke? They won't sign the treaty. They're in the same boat as NK, Pakistan, and Iran with me.
     
  4. TigerKid05

    TigerKid05 Say Whaa!?!?

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    we should have never gave them the technology/aid
     
  5. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    anybody thought of this.....

    why is it ok for the US, China, Russia, etc to have Nukes but the rest of the world can't?
     
  6. TigerFan23

    TigerFan23 USMC Tiger

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    I'm guessing you're all for getting rid of the military in every country, as well, too? Then the entire world can be one big group of shiny happy people holding hands and we can all sing Kumbaya? :dis:

    Never gonna happen, pal.

    We (as in the U.S., China, Russia, etc) are the world's superpowers and frankly, we're generally responsible and smart enough not to actually use our nuclear weapons unless as a last resort. If a rogue nation such as North Korea or a terrorist group with nothing to lose were to get their hands on a nuke, they could theoretically hold the world hostage with that power. All it takes is a nuclear weapon to explode in a heavily populated area or a large financial district to really send this world into complete chaos. That is why its okay for us to have nukes but the rest of the world can't.
     
  7. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    Don't waste your time bud. Anyone uneducated enough to ask that question can't be reasoned with. Give him a few years, he'll figure it out.
     
  8. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i agree with him, who are we to tell people they cant have nukes? i dont think we should even pretend to tell anyone what they can and cannot do, unless we are willing to kill them to make them follow our orders.

    if i am nkorea, i make nukes too. if the US tells me to stop, i tell them to mind their own damn business.
     
  9. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    You're either missing the point, or you playing devils advocate. I'm betting on the later. You're much to smart to not understand the situation, and how this mess works.
     
  10. macatak911

    macatak911 CRAIG STELTZ = BEAST

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    No I'm not against military. I'm not for North Korea having nukes. I'm for "Nuclear Free World Policy."

    I guess you forgot about the 200,000 + civilian casualtites in Japan.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki

    I don't think NK will actually use its WMD's. NK will have about 1-10 WMD while the rest of the world has about 12,000 other active warheads. If NK launches a WMD in our direction chances are it gets intercepted in midair, if it can even reach the Pacific coast. NK's only "realistic" target would be SK, Japan, etc....and if they send a few in those directions I'm sure there will be some sent back their way.
     

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