Israel has had nukes for quite some time. There has been a lot of unrest in the Middle East for quite some time. Israel hasn't used their nukes yet on any enemies and if they were going to, I highly doubt they would use them without our consent, considering we're their biggest ally. I am much more worried about North Korea possessing the capability of producing a nuclear weapon than I am about Israel having nuclear weapons. Frankly, I don't really think Israel has much of a place in this discussion, as they are not a rogue nation with nothing to lose.
Well the thing is Isreal won't do much with out the US backing them. We are like the big brother keeping the bullies away. So Isreal isn't a concern. That being said, NK and IRAN are going to be problems. Anyone else wish that the US would stop playing world police and worry about ourselves? The reason I make that comment is that thanks to the internet, I have met and become friends with people all over the world. The bad thing is that the USA is perceived to be bullies everywhere in the world. I can explain this better like this. Compare all the nations of the planet to a neighborhood with about 100 houses. We are that nosey ass neighbor who is always telling everyone else what to do, meanwhile, our house is falling apart right under our nose. Problem is we are always looking out the window instead of in the mirror! IF you look at it, the Government of the US is doing whatever it wants. All this crap about our privacy etc..etc is BullS... I heard on the news that the government spent like 250 Billion dollars more then they made this year. That amazes me. How are we better as a country for that? Is my kids school any better? Are my roads less bumpy/re-paved? Are the levees fixed? We all know the answers and the problems. Problem is our Goverment to busy paying off the news stations, and worring about crap overseas to really fix or do anything in this country. Unless some big companies or rich people are at risk of losing money. For example, the recent BS move to insert a bill into must pass legislation to stop online gambling. Ya, I am so sure that online gambling is linked to Port Security. That was a BS move and it will become law. So for those of us who enjoy a nice poker tourney every once in a while, we can't do it anymore. People wonder why that happened, well when you spend about a trillion dollars make the dessert in Nevada to be a paradise, you don't want people staying home and possibly lossing there retirement. You want them on your slot machines and eating your buffets! Anyways, I am done ranting and am gonna go crawl in bed and hopefully wake up my g/f..on accident of course :geauxtige
What I favor has nothing to do with what the "terrorists" want, it has to do with what is best for American interests. The occupation of Iraq is a snowballing disaster, any fool can see it. The war was over in 21 days and we won it. But the continued occupation is a fools errand and it isn't winnable. Tell me exactly what victory consists of? The country shows no sign of improvement, instead it is much worse. There is still little power and water, the violence is way up, the Iraqi government is imcomptent and powerless, and we've lost the support of the Iraqi people. 78 percent of Iraqis think that the situation would improve if the Americans were gone. 61 percent think it is OK to attack Americans who are in Iraq. Sooner or later they are going to demand that we leave. Since they got nothin' we need, there is no need to stay and we'll leave. That would be a victory for the ragheads. I say we went in when we wanted and we'll leave when we want to. We turn it over to them, province-by-province and agency-by agency, whteher the like it or not and then we leave on our terms and on our timetable. Saying that we must stay until Iraq miracuously turns into some kind of democracy is crazy, It puts control of the issue in the hands of the rags and we couldn't ever succeed unless they wanted it. These people are not our friends and they neither want nor deserve democracy. They are fighting each other to put a new strongman in charge, just a soon as we leave. I say, let them fight it out and kill each other without our presence. We've already proved we can take down a country and stay as long as we want to. We threaten them to behave or the B52-s will be back. Then we leave when we want to . . . which is soon, as we have bigger problems brewing in Korea and Iran. The threat is imminent. The are currently assumed to have about 10 plutonium warheads. North Korea already has the misslle capability to hit all of Japan, South Korea, and Okinawa, not to mention great chunks of China and Russia. We have almost 100,000 military personnel and dozens of air and naval bases in range right now. They are developing a missile that can hit the continental United States. It may be a few years before they can miniaturize a big warhead so it is light enough for the ICBM, but they are ahead of schedule already. In the last five years, Kim has forward deployed 70% of his million-man army close to the DMZ, up from 40%. His artillery can rain 400,000 rounds an hour on Seoul from their current positions north of the DMZ. He has eight chemical weapons plants and four biological weapons plants operational. And now he has nuclear weapons. He could invade South Korea and there would be a big fight that would destroy South Korea again and it might take tactical nuclear weapons to stop it. At least that has been our strategy since the 50's. He has tons of very nasty things that could be transferred to real terrorists. This worries me a lot more than ragheads fighting a civil war in Iraq with rifles and grenades. Fugg those people, let them have miserable place.
And no where in there did you say one thing about what you would do differently in terms of N. Korea except "act in America's best interest." Nice try.
right, so you set me up to portay my n. korea strategy as wrong, but what is your strategy? you havent said anything here. we knew the situation is dangerous. are you saying you agree with my strategy of doing nothing? cant you speak in specifics?
there is definitely some truth in that. all the talk of N korea is a pretense to talk about leaving iraq.
Other than 1) Do nothing 2) War with Korea IMO, the solution to this goes through China. If we are getting no where with discussions with China, the only other option is to arm Japan and Taiwan. We can arm them with nukes on the pretense of protection from N. Korea. That would get China acting to halt their buddies real quick.
But having our enemy N. Korea testing nukes gets nothing from us? We can't be the only one who fears WWIII around here.
