Martin, I don't want a coverup and i'm against that. The problem is the media isn't responsible or accountable for thier actions. 1) There was an ongoing investigation involving this scandal before the pictures and this story broke on CBS. The evidence in this case has been seen across the world, how are these people to get a fair trial. I don't have a problem with this woman or anybody else who could be guilty being convicted. I don't know if I should assume but I will assume the woman is guilty because of the sex acts with different men, I don't see how anyone could've or would've ordered her to do this. 2) I know its all about politics this time of year in this country but communications and satellite feeds are present and our enemies can easily watch what is going on in this country with statements by people like Edward Kennedy and any other democrats that are saying things they shouldn't say about this war. We've never had spontanius communications in a war before like we've had today, even 3rd world countries can watch our news now! When this happens they are giving the enemy hope, they don't understand exactly how our country works. Do me one favor, to see exactly where I'm coming from read this article about Vietnam and you will totally understand where I'm coming from. http://washtimes.com/commentary/20040415-090923-9426r.htm Let me say in closing that there is no one to police the media, I'm not for a media controlled situation like in certain countries. I think the media has really hurt our war effort in Iraq similar to like they did in Vietnam. I will also say that the terrorists that kill Americans know how the media works in this country, I think thats why they killed Nick Berg the way they did. I don't buy it was in retaliation for the Iraq prison scandal, lets not forget Daniel Pearl and others who have died. I also suspect the 4 American contractors were killed and burned and hung because they knew it would be shown all over the news in this country. The enemy is using our media to thier advantage to weaken our confidence and our resolve.
I'm sorry, I have to say 1 more thing.. Today the news world is alot different than it was 20 years ago. You have a bunch of 24 hour news networks competing with each other for the latest news, 1 example is the 2000 election and Gore announced the winner. I just think that the rules of the news haven't been updated with the times since news has changed so much and its obvious that the news can't any longer control themselves. Don't you think the millitary controls the media as far as when an actual war is going on? I just think they need to control things a little more like not letting this story come out until after the investigation is over and then we could see the results of the trial, That way you get the whole story, results of trials and all. Anything that is harmful to the troops and the war effort should be at least spiced down a bit.
as long as the media is not controlled by the government, and not endanger our soldiers, i figure they should say whatever they want. i rarely blame the media for their mentality. i blame the morons who refuse to think about the world and will accept what is fed to them. of course the media is overdoing the prisoner abuse scandal. screw em. i can watch fox. they have a different perspective. we vote with our remotes. if people are morons and will watch liberal news, then i cant fault the news for giving em what they want. i think over time (and of course with foxnews it is already happening) there will be even more conservative perspectives. i think people like you fellas wil be more represented. maybe tv will become more like talk radio, and talk radio will even out also. i just see it as a question of who is dictating what to who. is the media liberal because they just are, or is because people like that perspective? i think the media is more liberal the the public, but that is ok, because as long as we do not regulate media, it will eventually settle out and proportionately reflect us, the people. besides, not everybody is blindly eating up what the media is serving. us for example. our discussions are always more conservative in perspective than the media. i dont have any problems with the media. they mostly give us what we ask for.
Martin, I agree with your post, the problem isn't Americans IMO. It is the jihadist in the other countries watching and then is encouraged by the propaganda of our media and then it helps give them more strength and courage to Kill Americans. Its just overkill, thats all. What good did it do to have the prison scandal hearings on the other day when there are like 6 or 7 investigations going on right now. Its not like they could really say what happened, its more like window dressing. All that coverage and nothing was really answered, meanwhile it just gives the enemy another excuse to hate and kill us, or makes them think they are winning the war. Remember with these people its all about winning the propaganda war as well. Anyway, I just worry about the garbage that the media shows will get more Americans killed, thats all. I can always change the channel when I've had enough.
yeah, i understand. the media mostly gets people too damn excited about the wrong things. so many huge stories about things that are completely BS. i mean what do i give a shiz about lacey peterson? why do i can about so much of this crap on the news? and it is annoying as hell, when i want to watch the news and i get some story that is less interesting and relevant than what i had for breakfast. but apparently some idiots do care. i wish more people paid attention to what matters and didnt let the media dictate what is important. you may be right. i dont know who to blame, because we are the consumers of media, and they are trying to please us. i think the democratization (internet, satellite, more sources) of media will help. or maybe i am wrong, people have an insatiable appetite for BS. if they never said another word about kobe bryant and instead interviewed our soldiers that would be great. so after reading what you and bb say, i agree. the damn media sensationalizes and distracts us, and i dont like it, but i blame the public as well as the media.
If people didn't have an insatiable appetite for BS the National Enquirer and the other tabloids would be out of business. If there was a way to get Kobe, Wacko Jacko, Scott Peterson, OJ and Martha Stewart on a reality show they would do it.
true. i think the emergence of foxnews has been a big step for media. it will please me when there are a couple more major news sources that are a bit right of center. i think the ideal would be to have a few major networks on each side. and i dont say that just because i am republican, just because i think media should reflect the people more accurately. since half of america is conservative, half the media should be.
I don't know if you are being sarcastic here or not but I agree to a certain point. Personally I don't see how the "Liberal media" is sensationalizing any of this. The pictures speak for themselves. Unfortunately, they speak a different language to differerent people. To us, it's not that big of a deal when you compare it to certain things like military training or how our soldiers are required to live. But to the Iraqis and other Arabs, it is just an extension of what they had before, what we were supposed to be liberating them from. Irregardless of the motive, the treatment of these people in light of what we are trying to accomplish is not right. I don't have a problem with stooping down to the level of the cowards we are fighting and doing whatever is necessary to rid the world of this scourge of terrorism and these fanatics we are fighting. Because that's the ONLY way to fight them. But lets' stop pretending to do it the American way, by being Mr. Nice Guy. If we are going to do it, come on out and say it. Be open about it. Let the world know we will give no quarter and be prepared to accept no quarter. The hell with the press and the hell with world opinion. If you can't do it full force then don't do it at all. But Americans on all levels had better be prepared to accept the consequences. If any of you out there think that waging a total war such as is necessary will make America and the world a safer, better place, then you'd better step back and take a long hard look at the cost. Because it won't be cheap. And I ain't just talking dollars here! Pretty soon we'll be no better than the scum we are fighting.
irregardless is an awful word. the suffix "less" meaning without, and the prefix "ir" meaning "not", the word is a pre-packaged double negative. i think it is a fake made up word that caught on with dummies. probably you should just say "regardless".
Irregardless isn't a word at all. The word is regardless. Sorry-I'm an English teacher... Last night on "Inside Edition," Nicholas Berg's father was interviewed and blamed his son's death on George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld. I kid you not. The next story was about doctored and fake "prison torture" photos that are being run in newspapers across the world.
