Next celebrity death

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    There are clinics overseas who monitor heroin users. Give them a place to come shoot up with clean needles and have nurses there. No one has ever died in the shooting galleries.
     
  2. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    In the Journal of Global Drug Policy, Dr Colin Mangham wrote that this injection site had made no impact on overdose deaths, led to little or no reduction in the transmission of blood-borne diseases or on public disorder, and had propelled few drug-users into long-term treatment and recovery. Only 11 of 90 injections took place at the 'safe room'

    Most devastating of all, addicts used the place only very sporadically. Only 11 out of 90 injections actually took place at this 'safe room'. Most drug-users still injected themselves most of the time elsewhere.

    Similar results have been reported from other such places. In a shooting gallery in Sydney, Australia, just one in every 35 injections takes place there.

    It is extremely naive to imagine that such supervision gives the authorities any control over drug-users' habits. Indeed, this betrays a lamentable failure to understand just what drugs do to people.

    As Neil McKeganey, Professor of Drug Misuse Research at Glasgow University, has explained, drug treatment agencies are unable to control the behaviour of addicts because this is inherently uncontrollable.

    So by their own lights, these supervised injection rooms are an utter failure."


    Shooting galleries do not take into account those who are users of multiple drugs and those combinations are often unpreventably deadly.

    And lastly, do you really think that folks like Seymour Hoffman could really go to a shooting gallery without completely effing up his entire career? What insurance company would carry him for the balance of a film production? The US is not Holland or France or England. Life here isn't the same as there and comparisons just don't fly IMO. Are you willing to have a shooting gallery in your neighborhood? I don't even want one in my county. The overall lifestyle of a heroin addict is poor. Not much money and not many prospects. Poor health and ongoing emotional/psychological problems. No thank you to shooting galleries.
     
  3. fanatic

    fanatic Habitual Line Stepper

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    Actually, alot of what you said makes sense, but not in PSH's case. There's no way he would ever go to a government sponsored shooting gallery? He wouldn't want to be recognized, so he'd stay reclused in his luxury apartment shooting. Hence, the same result.
     
  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    So legalize it, have a reputable company produce it and sell it instead of the cartel. No one is ever going to stop drug use. Never, we have a very intolerant country and people still use.

    People need to back the off of other people. If I infringe on no one else's rights I should be able to shoot up crack on my roof.

    Had it been legal maybe PSH gets a batch that doesn't kill him. Had we been more tolerant maybe he never gets that far in the first place.
     
  5. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I can't even describe how idiotic that sounds. Wow
     
  6. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    So keep locking everyone up is the answer? Keep funneling billions of dollars at a faucet that will NEVER stop leaking? People like drugs, nothing anyone can do will ever change that. And then in 20 years it will be 10 or 12 new drugs that come out, so lets lock more people up and throw trillions at it?

    I'm sick of my tax dollars going to lock people up who never hurt anyone.

    If you have another idea lets hear it.
     
  7. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    You asked for it.

    IMO they should continue to enforce as best they can. Get caught, get locked up. Spend money on education so that the dangers of these drugs are well circulated. Look, I get that a certain number of people love drugs. Those people are fucking stupid and if they die? Well solidifies my point.
     
  8. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    So why not let them die in peace? How does a non violent drug offender hurt society?
     
  9. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Dude, most of these drugs are mind altering on a different level. I'm not going to debate whether or not people should be allowed to mainline heroine as they wish. It is a dumb idea and I've got nothing for you if you can't see that.
     
  10. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    My point is it's no one else's business if someone wants to something to themselves without infringing upon others rights, dumb or not.
     

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