New Gun Control Proposal

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    They damn sure weren't left wing loons. Those men were statesman. They wanted a strong independent country. Where people could become whatever they wanted to. And a government that provided security and economic freedom.not a government that punished it with laws,regulations and restrictions designed to limit personal freedoms and liberties. Your boy, and many other politicians, just wants an American people dependent on the government. That's how they retain their own power and increase their own personal wealth.
     
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  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    These are not right-wing virtues, they are shared by all Americans.

    The founding fathers disagreed about many things. Paine, Adams and Hamilton were liberal in today's terms. Franklin and Washington were moderate. Jefferson was more of a Libertarian than a true right-winger.

    Yet they created a government with laws, regulations, and restrictions. Without them, there is no government at all.

    No, he doesn't. That is just right-wing loon spin.
     
  3. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    Welfare recepients up 27% since 2008. Left wing progress.

    Back to gun control. We aren't suppose to judge a religion because of a few crazies, (9/11, Benghazi, Algeria oil refinery, USS Cole, Marine Corp barracks in Lebanon, etc...). Why are they wanting to judge the whole gun rights community on a few like Olmes and Lanza?

    And why in the hell are we sending the Egyptians , Muslim Brotherhood, Abram tanks and fighter jets?
    And Israel has nicknamed Obama, Kerry , Hagel, and Biden the 4 horseman.
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    The founding fathers are right wing. They would shit on your face if you mentioned bmassive government boondoggles like social security. The founding fathers are basically a bunch of martins.
     
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  5. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    lol define "people"
    I laugh at shit like this, people put the founding founders on this oracle type pedestal.Because its complete bullshit, they were politicians, follow the principals not the people because they didnt follow their own beliefs.

    like a race of people that arent people on 3/5th of a person. That sure sounds like limiting personal freedoms to me.
     
  6. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    is this supposed to mean something, you care about what Israel thinks, because I dont. Most conservatives back Israel for the wrong motives anyone who is smart can understand this.
     
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  7. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    Israel is supposed to be the seed of democracy in the Middle East. If we can go and try to liberate countries like Vietnam iraq, Libya, Kuwait. Then why would we allow a country like Israel to be threatened by countries like Iran? Even go as far as arming a known terrorist group like the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt ?

    Lets not forget how slaves got here. The farmers needed labor and the African tribes seen a way to profit by selling their native countrymen.
     
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    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    If the founding fathers could walk through Congress's right now. They would probably want to hang or shoot half of the politicians in Washington on grounds of treason.
     
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    martin Banned Forever

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    this is the kind of thing that kooks like you say, but i actually agree. the founding fathers were intellectual non-religious racists. (again, like me)

    those dudes would not have a chance today. red would never vote for them.
     
  10. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    again, wtf is that supposed to mean. It doesnt matter how slaves got here, your argument was about personal freedoms and liberties that the founding founders wanted for the country. But my rebuttal is a direct contradiction to that. how they got here, doesnt mean shit in your original premise. Its just another excuse because you cant refute my rebuttal.
    Its a chicken shit answer as well, but i'll play along. How about the country refusing to take slaves or to purchase them or giving them diplomatic protection against traders and those who allegedly sold them into slavery.

    Egypt is a democracy now, they elected the Brotherhood, which we were given aid, money and weapons too way before he was elected.
    you have a severe problem of faux outrage at shit that has gone on way before Obama.
     

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