New Arizona Immigration Enforcement Laws

Omniscience.

They have already clarified that it won't be used to pull people over. But the police have always had to obtain the identities of suspects, perps, victims, and witnesses. They just had to ignore that illegals were illegals before. Now they have to be honest about it.

I have been asked to show my ID in Canada. This ain't about racism, it's about nationality.

 

The law doesn't say that at all, despite your hysterical disinformation. Citizens have nothing to fear and can stand on their rights. Legal immigrants have nothing to fear if they have their ID which they are required by law to carry anyway. Illegal aliens have no rights to hide their identity.

The Arizona Lawmakers last week clarified the language to require scrutiny only of people who police legally stop, detain or arrest. Police will have no increased power to stop anybody than they ever did. They also changed a section of the bill that barred officers from "solely" using race as grounds for suspecting someone is in the country illegally. Now they will have to prove to a judge that other grounds were used.

Why don't you just wait for it?

Well, when someone tries to change the issue to criticize me personally, I know that they have exhausted their logic and lost the argument. If you are just going to be a pompous azzhole, I'm going to ignore you.

 

I had been responding to SF earlier and still had his moniker in my copy memory. When I pasted it in the following post, I failed to notice that my new copy didn't take. So it got misattributed to a non-author.

SabanFan is easily amused, darlin'.

 

Just cause is used in civil vourt and means a legally sufficient reason. The laws are extensive and detailed.

Reasonable suspicion is a legal standard that a person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity based on specific and articulable facts and inferences. It is the basis for an investigatory stop by the police and requires less evidence than probable cause, the legal requirement for arrests and warrants. Reasonable suspicion is not a mere hunch and can require justification in court. Police may also, based solely on reasonable suspicion of a threat to safety, frisk a suspect for weapons, but not for contraband like drugs. A combination of particular facts, even if each is individually innocuous, can form the basis of reasonable suspicion.

Probable cause is the standard by which a police officer has the authority to make an arrest, conduct a personal or property search, or to obtain a warrant for arrest. The most well-known definition of probable cause is "a reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime". Another common definition is "a reasonable amount of suspicion, supported by circumstances sufficiently strong to justify a prudent and cautious person's belief that certain facts are probably true.