New AMC series The Walking Dead

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  1. fanatic

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    He did, and give the increasing scarcity of ammo, he better tell someone so they can go and retrieve it. Of course, if he does, he'll have to explain how it got there and how he came across the walker that eventually killed Dale.
     
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    I think that Carl is hugely upset because he knows that Dale died as a result of a walker, the same as was stuck in the mud, who probably followed Carl back to the farm. So Carl will have to own up to the taunting, the theft of the gun & its loss and to the fcuk-up that led to Dale's death. That's a lot for a kid to swallow!

    Great series! I can't get enuf of it!
     
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    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    Just watched the latest episode last night. Greatness.

    The one in the group with the most humanity and conscious dies. The scales are tipped now. And he dies in the most needless way. Every action taken can lead to sparing a life, or to death.

    You don't get another chance, life is no nintendo game!


    Maybe Dale's biggest contribution was to sow enough doubt for Rick to spare the life of the guy that is going to bring the others down on them.

    And isn't it ironic... don't you think

    It's like rain on your wedding day

    It's a free ride when you've already paid
    It's the good advice that you just didn't take
    Who would've thought... it figure
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    Dale was wrong. Consider this like a war. You know the others are hostile. The prisoner shot at you. You know the prisioner knows where the farm is. If you were behind the German lines and had a German soldier prisoner what would you do with him? He could escape and give your position away. Humanity isn't the goal, survival of the group is. Humanity is for feeding starving countries and helping thy neighbor, not for sparing the life of what may cause your death.

    Now Rick sees his son growing up in this world where humanity is lost. Carl has no defined moral values to use when making decisions. His morality is being defined by what is happening now. As the years go by he will know nothing but the coldness of killing and death.

    And Carl.....his curiosity took him inside the barn with the prisoner, took him to the bog where the zombie was, took him to to the execution area. Carl's presence and Dale's argument halted the execution and Carl's trip into the woods led to the death of Dale. Now Carl's lack of compassion regarding the zombification and death of Sophia is met head on with his knowledge that he caused Dale's death. That is a lot for a little boy to come to terms with.

    And finally, twice Rick had a chance to pull the trigger and twice he failed. Victory to Shane. He knew Rick couldn't make the hard choice and pull the trigger if he had to.

    Greatness.
     
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    Honesty, if the world ever comes to this, then I say that our species is not worth saving.

    I'm not really sure how to explain it, but Dale is right. The others are making decisions based out of fear. Fear is your own worse enemy.
     
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    It's not about fear. It's about survival. It's not like they arbitrarily decided to kill him for no reason. He admitted that's he's with a 30 man rape squad with heavy weapons. Rick has already seen first hand how quick 2 members of said group turned on him/Glenn/Herschel.

    Things would be different if the prisoner went out of his way to tell his group not to shoot and to put down their arms. But he didn't. He was trying to kill them. Because of his past actions/inactions, they're taking too big of a risk to their own survival by letting him go or allowing him to join their group.


    I strongly disagree with this. Rick has already proven in the bar and when he killed the Sophia walker that he can and has pulled the trigger when he had to. The 2 times he hesitated were when his young son was watching (who among us could do that with their child bearing witness?), the other was close friend/member of the group. Sure, Deryl ended up killing Dale, but I don't think that's a knock on Rick. Shane talks a big game, but he's yet to step up and make a big decision when he's had the opportunity (the walkers in the barn don't count because it wasn't personal).
     
  6. TBTrumpet

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    Its a hard sell to just kill him for that reason. They should have just killed him while he was stuck on the fence. But they didn't, they chose to save his life. Now they want to execute him for crimes they cannot confirm he participated in and for a supposed threat from his group that they haven't confirmed even exist.

    A little reconnaissance by the group in the surrounding area would go a long way in providing facts about the supposed threat from the kid's group.
     
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    That's actually a fair point and you're right, that would have been the ideal time to do it. Still, would you be willing to bet your family's life on the fact that he would not try to find his group and lead them back to the farm?
     
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    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    Au contraire, it is not hard to kill a walker. It might have been an intense scene but a walker is a walker. That is what they were trying to convince Hershel of. Andrea had to kill her sister already and Rick killed a little walker girl in the first episode when he wasn't sure just what was going on. The bar scene was obviously self defense. Something a police officer would be well trained and capable of doing. He can face a direct threat. We would all like to think we can do that.

    At some point Rick may be holding a gun to someone else's head and be faced with the same dilemma. It may be Shane.

    I love WD talk.
     
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    On a related note, I have been selling my Walking Dead comics on ebay. They are killing it. I got 600 bucks for my copy of #1. Best 2.99 I ever spent.
     
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    :shock::shock::shock:

    $600? Wow. So, what's the deal? Are they no longer in print? I was actually thinking about starting to read the comic series, but I can't justify that kind of $$ for a comic to my wife. She would never understand, unless I could sell it for $601 when I'm finished with it.
     

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