Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Most-Wanted Terrorist

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  1. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    There...straight from someone who is there...end of discussion...the defense rest...no other comments necessary.
     
  2. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Are you kidding me?

    1 person's perspective is no better than another persons. Military or not.

    I would think even the Military people know this as it's what they protect.
     
  3. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    that pretty lady on foxnews (oreilly) last night said a soldier turned it in and then it has to be investigated. she said itll be dropped quickly. bill was astonished by the story until she said it wasnt based on the prisoner.
     
  4. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Now that is interesting. If true.
     
  5. gumborue

    gumborue Throwin Ched

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    it was foxnews, so.....
     
  6. DRC

    DRC TigerNator

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    More interesting information:

    1) The charges or accusations against the three Navy SEALs were not made from within the SEAL community. Sources tell me they came from someone within the Navy’s Master-at-Arm community.

    2) The SEALs were presented with the option of going to Captain’s Mast for these charges but declined this form of non-judicial punishment and opted for court-martial instead. Why? Because they did not want to be judged by those outside of the SEAL community and believed the court-martial route would assure them the representation necessary to prove their innocence.

    3) At no time did anyone within the Naval Special Warfare community have any control over these accusations or events other than providing advice or guidance to the accused SEALs.

    4) The integrity of the chain of custody of the prisoner is at question.

    5) There are extenuating circumstances that indicate there is questionable evidence in some of the accusations made.

    6) Evidence will come out in a court-martial that might not have come out in a Captain’s Mast in favor of the accused SEALs.
     
  7. TigerFan23

    TigerFan23 USMC Tiger

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    Umm, it's not a perspective, it's the way things are right now.
     
  8. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    I have a feeling that everything that comes out up until the trial will support my opinion that the author clearly had no idea of what went on, and was just reporting 2nd and 3rd hand information. Foxnews decided to go with it anyway, even though the article had so many obvious flaws, most of which I've pointed out already in my 20 page essay above :wink:.

    If it does turn out that the facts of the case were far different than the Foxnews story, would this change anyones opinion of the credibility of their reporting? Would Foxnews retract it? If not, would they be any more credible than CBS and Dan Rather?

    Or, if it turns out that everything happened like what Foxnews reported, am I right to understand that most Conservatives that that it is ok now for Soldiers to violate orders and lie to investigators about it? Does the War on Terror change the way the military conducts itself internally?

    If they are innocent, then the author and the attorney didn't really do them a favor by making this a national story. It can backfire and make it to where hands are forced. I hope they are innocent, because SEALs are awesome, or if not, they aren't given a heavy penalty. I think the obstruction charges are going to be the clinchers if they are found guilty, and could carry a severe price.

    Either way, this is an interesting story, because alot of Conservatives are going to be showing their true colors, especially if this becomes a Headline type story. I can't wait to see how it pans out.
     
  9. USMTiger

    USMTiger Founding Member

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    Oh, and just wanted to agree with other posters;

    Having trials for Terrorists in civilian courts is absolutely ridiculous. If a bomb goes off during the upcoming trial in New York, they should plaster Eric Holders face all over the News Stories with a sign that says "Accessory to Murder".

    This country is run by bafoons.
     
  10. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    At least we can agree on this.
    I would say that the country isn't the only thing that is run by bafoons.
    I would say all news media is run by bafoons most are cheerleaders for the left.
    If we need any kind of reform in this country it is political and media reform.

    Why stop with Fox News, CBS and Dan Rather?
    Why not include Chris Mathews and Keith Olberman at MSNBC?
    I'm sure we can also find problems with NBC, CNN and every network out there.
    Why don't we start with the story from this time either last year or the year before?
    I don't remember which, Time flies by so quickly any more?
    The story when Republicans were in power was that it was the greatest recession since the great depression when unemployment was at 5%.
    It is now at 10% with Dems in charge and they say it gives you more family time to be out of work or they say the economy is coming back, things really aren't that bad.
    Which is it?
    What is objective journalism or neutral journalism today?
    At least with some they don't pretend to be something they are not.

    This is why you have to read and review everything you see with a filter no matter what you are reading, watching or listening too.
    The Dan Rather story was a fabricated story but to the best of my knowledge this story is not.
    At worst someone screwed up a story, It is no where near fabricating a story.

    The only thing I will say about your other post above is that we are suppose to be at war.
    Why not prosecute a bunch of WWII heros for killing German Soldiers during that war.
    I'm assuming it was true in band of brothers when they gave German POW's cigarettes then turned around and shot them?
    War is War, I would've done a lot worse to that scum bag than give him a fat lip.

    Btw, forget the media and story for a minute.
    Do you have any concern with what TigerFan23 is saying with information coming from Iraq?
     

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