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Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by Sourdoughman, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. JSracing

    JSracing Founding Member

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    Dahm! martin why did you go and have to let the cat outta the bag! Now he knows!
     
  2. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    He just wanted to take a shot at his inlaws. So he rambled on and on about nothing and put that bit of info about them in the post.
     
  3. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Roe v. Wade has been talked about for years as a "bad" legal decision. You cannot vote for a nominee that already tells you how he or she will vote on a hypothetical case.......it doesn't make sense. No other jurist has had to answer such questions.

    No matter the consequence to society (the Supreme Court is not there to fix society's problems) the court should rule on the case before them.....the law. Not based on what will happen if the case is affirmed or denied.

    The problem is this: Roe v. Wade was ruled on with " A Right to Privacy" claim. There is no Constitutional guarantee to a right to personal privacy.....

    Here's a question for you libs out there...or just pro-choicers: If the country wants a definite right to an abortion, why not try and get a Constitutional Amendment guaranteeing the right to abort babies?

    You want to know why they don't try that? Cause they know it will never pass.......people would vote it down. So when a lib can't get what he wants what does he do? Gets it through an unelected court.........

    Same with private property which is guaranteed through the Constitution. Libs had to get their hands on private property through the courts......that's the only way. That's why you have so many people now questioning the checks and balances of our country....the courts have more power than ever. And Libs hate when Roberts says, "The court is not there to make new law." They hate that because that's what they want......if you can't get it through a vote, get it through an unelected court......gay marriage, abortion, seizing private property and giving it to someone else.........
     
  4. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    LSUCraig is correct, we need courts that influence the law and not make their own laws as they geaux.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    What a completely transparent question. Why don't the anti-abortion people try to do the same thing?

    The obvious answer is that the "people" don't get to vote on constitutional amendments. Amendments are proposed by Congress and ratified by state legislatures, 3/4 of whom must ratify to pass the amendment. Damn few issues are worthy of modifying the Constitution, especially controversial issues. This was the lesson of Prohibition, where we made an amendment and then had to make another amendment a few years later to remove the law.

    Neither side of this issue has the popular mandate for a Constitutional amendment. Congress rightly avoids controversial amendments.

    And if it could somehow come to a popular vote you would be disppointed. 54% of the country are pro-choice versus 38% anti-abortion. Dozens of polls clearly show an American preference for parental choice in family issues, specifcally abortion.

    PollingReport.com
     
  6. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    I don't know about your polling data but when asked, people are against abortion as a whole. There are several issues that Libs cannot get passed or ratified through an elected body on earth that they lobby the courts to decide in their favor.


    Here's one from Zogby:
    "New Poll: Majority of Americans, Blacks, Students Pro-Life on Abortion


    [font=georgia,new york,times,serif]While abortion advocates marched in Washington on Sunday, pro-life groups were touting the results of a new poll showing that a majority of Americans, including African Americans and students, are pro-life on abortion. In a poll released Friday by Zogby International, a respected polling firm, a total of 56 percent agreed with one of the following pro-life views: abortion should never be legal (18 percent), legal only when the life of the mother is in danger (15 percent) or legal only when the life of the mother is in danger or in cases of rape or incest (23 percent).

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    This question was originally about Roberts. How many of these questions did any affirmed justice have to answer? How many votes did Ginsburg get.......something like 90-something to 3. The Harry Ried already said he's voting against because there are too many unanswered questions from Roberts. Will you say Reid's and the Dem's stance on Supreme Court nominees is wrong? Will you stand up against that Red?
     
  7. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    And this is incorrect. The people get to vote on state Constitutional Amendments all the time.........the last one was gay marriage which 70% of Louisianaians agree should not be legal. Every state that had an amendment banning gay marriage proposed, it won. So, Libs go to the courts to overturn it.

    Why not have a statewide Consitutional Amendment banning Abortion and let the people vote? Everytime state legislatures pass one, the Libs go to court to overturn it. They are trying to get around the will of the people and turning to unelected courts....correct?
     
  8. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    Yep. You sir are correct. Only problem with a stat abortion amendment is that it would be quickly overturned.
     
  9. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    I agree it would be. But rather than people hide who they really are, why not come out and say what you want? They want legal gay marriages, then let's vote on it and be done with it. But they won't stop there.

    Just like when Hillary and Bill are talking about "how are we going to pay for these hurricanes, and war....we can't cut spending so how?" Why can't they just say, "We want to raise taxes to pay for this stuff." But they can't. The same thing applies for gay marriage, abortion, free health insurance, no new refineries, no new drilling, alternative fuels, higher gas prices.

    Libs need to be honest and say, " We want higher gas prices to get our country off of gasoline, we do not want new drilling for oil, we do not want any new refineries built, we want higher taxes on individuals and business, we want abortion on demand, we want tight environmental regulations on companies, we want legal gay marriage, we want government sponsored health care, we want to seize private property and give to other private individuals to get more tax revenue, we want no school choice, we do not want vouchers." How can people go on day in and day out and not say what they really want for this country?

    They bitch and moan about the high price of gasoline but in truth, Clinton and the Dems want high gas prices because they see this as an opportunity to get people off SUV's and use less......just say it.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Not hardly. Did you even read the link? It is a compendium of many respected polls including the Gallup, the Pew, CBS, NBC, and CNN. You can't just pick one poll, you have to look at a broad spectrum.

    Why should I? I've never criticised Roberts, he's about as good a nominee as we're likely to get from this extreme-right President. But he doesn't walk on water and the Congress damn sure has the right and the responsibility to ask questions of him. What is wrong about that? Not a damn thing.

    Why is Roberts being so evasive if he has nothing to hide? Why do you fear democratic questions? Afraid the public will hear the answers, perhaps?
     

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