Must Read Article from Iraq

You do mean the news you watch also as propaganda?
ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and all the other stations do have an extent of propaganda as well.:wink:

I will ask you the same question, who are you fooling?
Put this poll in your pipe and smoke it!
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1339
President's rating mostly stable since start of year; Just 14% give the new Dem Congress a positive rating—nine points below GOP Congress last October

Thats funny you could say the same for Clinton administration and al qaeda vs Bush was only in office for 9 months.

So you and that 14% approve of the democratic congress?

No you won't, you can't prove it.
You are a democratic apologist.
Some people think that you are a moderate and don't stand for anything but I know one thing, actions speak louder than words.
No where have you ever criticized the policies of the left only the right.
Matter of fact you are no independent or moderate at all from what I can find.

Let me make the distinction clear for you.
I am a conservative Republican and have never tried to be someone I'm not.
So therefore I tend to take up for the conservative and republican viewpoints.
I have in fact criticized the right more than you have criticized the policies of the left, that tells me all I need to know along with you claiming a few years ago that the supreme court was conservative when in reality it wasn't.

There are threads out there that you have not provided evidence such as man causes global warming.
You say that there is a consensus among scientists about this but keep in mind there was a consensus that Al Gore won the election in 2000.
You only criticize republicans and claim to be an independent and a moderate.
Its funny that you criticize me for the very things you do my friend!

 

Actually they both suck, the left has done a terrible job as well.
Look at their history in blue states and cities.
I will admit they both suck as far as the federal government goes.
Will you?
Matter of fact the dem congress is at 14% approval rating of which u support.

Nothing, it isn't there.

Then maybe you will finally understand why I support conservative republican issues like you didn't in your post above.
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This tells me you aren't in the middle, you are left of center.
Just because a republican or democrat elects a judge doesn't mean they always are a member of that party, the system isn't perfect.
A conservative supreme court would never approve of abortion or immanent domain.

My memory is better than you think.
An example and what I was trying to say is that the only thing you said in the global warming thread was about a consensus on global warming.
Just because one has a consensus doesn't mean its true nor is it proof or evidence that man causes it.

Sure doesn't show in this forum.
All of your views are left.

It doesn't bother me that much.
I'm just showing everyone how one-sided, left centered your posts and viewpoints seem to be and let people decide for themselvs.

That is why you support a dem congress who's ratings are 14%.
Still doesn't support the idea of someone being independent or moderate.
But I suppose one can be if you aren't a left extremist or republican either.
I just don't see it when I think about your views mainly the last 4 years.

According to the zogby polls you are wrong again.
The democratic congress once again takes a hit on the war in Iraq.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1343
Survey shows just 3% of Americans approve of how Congress is handling the war in Iraq; 24% say the same for the President
Just 18% said cutting all funding for the war in Iraq to bring troops home would be the best showing of Congressional support.
More than half (55%) believe if the U.S. withdraws from Iraq that it will be considered a defeat, while 41% disagree.

The democratic congress and yourself are in the minority on this one.
If the presidents ratings for the war in Iraq is higher than congress.
Hmmm, how can this be?
Maybe the majority support the war and the presidents views in Iraq over the Dems and your cut and run strategy.
You seem way to the left here!

 

Our correspondence has spoken for itself.
So I guess you are calling both of us liars?:lol:

Hmm, I thought that is what we are doing here?

The dems are in power of congress or didn't you know that?
The dems so far have been as bad a failure as the republican congress or did you realize that?

Evidence?
You stated in this thread and another thread you were here to counter my threads and that you provide evidence when you don't
always.
This is yet another example of you blaming republicans and ignoring the left.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070718/us_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc_2
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An even bigger majority, 83 percent, say the Democratic-controlled Congress is doing only a fair or poor job -- the worst mark for Congress in a Zogby poll.

In the national survey of 1,012 likely voters, taken July 12 through July 14, about 66 percent said Bush had done only a fair or poor job as president, with 34 percent ranking his performance as excellent or good.

But the marks for Congress, mired in gridlock over a series of partisan political battles after Democrats took power in the 2006 elections, continued to drop.

While 83 percent said Congress was doing a fair or poor job, just 14 percent rated it excellent or good. Last October, in its final days, the Republican-led Congress earned ratings of excellent or good from 23 percent of voters.

"There is a growing sense that people voted for change in 2006 and they aren't getting it," Zogby said.

The poll showed only 26 percent of Americans thought the United States was on the right track and 64 percent thought it was on the wrong track.
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So 23% thought the republican congress was doing a good job while 14% the
Democrat congress is doing a good job.

"Americans feel their government is not accomplishing the people's business," Zogby said. "They feel the system is seriously broken."
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I also feel the system is seriously broken btw and I feel ripped off because congress certainly doesn't earn their keep.

Oh, I read it and I don't dispute it but it also says this.
Quote:
Survey shows just 3% of Americans approve of how Congress is handling the war in Iraq; 24% say the same for the President
Just 18% said cutting all funding for the war in Iraq to bring troops home would be the best showing of Congressional support.
More than half (55%) believe if the U.S. withdraws from Iraq that it will be considered a defeat, while 41% disagree.
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Again proven wrong, 24% approve of Bush's handling of the war while 3% approve of a democrat led congress.
You don't believe we would lose by leaving Iraq well 55% of Americans do.

Sounds like a bunch of lame excuses to me.
Bullchit, If Congress truely believed they were elected because of the war in Iraq and that they had a mandate all they had to do was defund the war.
It seems to me that you and those that want to bring troops home would be pissed at them for not defunding the war.

You are mistaken here also.
The reason the republican congress lost wasn't all about the Iraq war.
They lost because they acted like tax and spend liberals as well as some political scandals at the time such as Abramoff.
If it was all about Iraq like you claim then the Democrat congress would've had a mandate and defunded the war.
Joe Biden has said at a debate that we will be there until 2009.
You are delusional about leaving Iraq anytime soon so its a mute point, most democrats have acknowledged we will be there for quite some time no matter what.

 

I would like a different source.
You cited a liberal source.

 

Nah, it sounded as good as any to end this madness!:lol: