Come on, Cliff. Cool your jets, bro. The title of the thread is not geared toward positive responses. Seems to me most are pretty pissed this even happened, including me. But you can't claim some are just in harms way because they had a moment of stupid, not when at least 1/4 of the team is doing it. You have to concede JJ is damaged, regardless if he's charged or not. Time to focus more on the other two QBs. I'm sure Les will make the right decision regarding those involved. But the whole episode is extremely disappointing and should not have happened.
I am cool and at the end of the day it is just football and 20 year olds ! Just one stupid poster on here that gets me going. I am going to church right now and I could pray that he sees the light or I could pray Mike gets out his cage next time this little boy rides his bike by the cage. I guess the good in me will pray for the light to shine ! Geaux Tigers
Breaking curfew although not a way to show leadership and discipline, isn't an earth shattering violation. Just shows really poor judgement and disregard for the possible consequences. Allowing yourself to be pulled into a bar room brawl where people end up in the hospital and charges are likely to be filed just weeks before a huge opening game in a season with so much promise is a blunder of great magnitude. The consequences to the team and season could be great, not to mention the trouble each could be in personally with the law. Miles is known as a players coach, but has been able to keep his players in line for the most part. There will always be RP's coming and going on every team. The fact that so many players were involved leads me to believe that Miles will pull back on the reins hard. I trust Miles to handle the situation and get it under control quickly. I expect the team to fall in line and get straight immediately under Miles stricter hand. What worries me is that team leaders were involved and that says very poor things about the leadership of this team at the player level. Unfortunately the thing that has plagued JJ his entire career, poor decision making, doesn't seem to have improved with age. It doesn't point towards vast improvement on the football field this season, if he is even eligible when this is done. Hopefully it is not nearly as bad as it appears and that it will soon blow over. I hope all players involved get their act together and get on the right track. However all indications are that this could get much more ugly long before it gets better.
So much tension here over something that we as a fan base can do nothing about. What happened, happened. We cannot change that or what is going to happen next. This was not just JJ making a bad decision, it was a team making a bad decision. What will be interesting to me is the facts that come out next and where the team goes from there. It sounds like the unity council is stepping forward to take ownership. That's a good first step. I'd like to see both the coaches and players do the right thing. Discipline should be appropriate to those that were involved and to the level they were involved. The players should also step up together and make sure this type of thing does not happen again. Getting mad about it will do nothing to change the facts or the future direction of this team. It's just silly to speculate and start getting wound up about things we don't fully understand or we can do nothing to change. I also think it's wrong to single out Jordan Jefferson when there were many others also involved. He's wrong but so are the others. They are all leaders to one degree or the other. It's not right to leverage this situation with only a small portion of the facts being known to justify your desire to remove Jefferson from the starting position. If you want him out, you want him out. This incident does not change that. I am disappointed that any of these kids were in the position to be caught up in this mess to any degree. They should have been tucked away in bed dreaming of championships. They weren't. Now it's up to the coaches and every player on that team to learn the lesson, take their medicine and move forward. That's all that can be done. And there is nothing that we can do as fans to change that. So, relax and let the truth surface before you get all wound up ...
Maybe Brett should just shut down the website since everything discussed in every thread is nothing that posters here can control. It's a discussion board and guess what, it's a hot topic. People that visit this site regularly are passionate Tiger fans. If we didn't discuss things we couldn't change there would be no discussion.
I agree with this to a point. But lots of sports leaders lack self discipline in their personal lives. That's why police reports are full of names we know from Sunday football games. Let's keep this in perspective. It was the night of the last day of camp; it was not the night before the Oregon game. It was an 'unsponsored team event', not one guy or one small group doing something crazy on their own. There is still a lot we don't know including what impact this incident has on JJs ability to lead the team.
I may be wrong, but you seem to be focusing on the very minor team rule violation of breaking curfew. That's a relatively minor violation that can and will be corrected immediately. However a street brawl is a much bigger problem. Are you saying that as long as it happened two weeks before the Oregon game and not the night before that it is ok or are you just burying your head in the sand and pretending it didn't happen at all?
