More proof that the youth of America is driving this country down

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  1. mesquite tiger

    mesquite tiger Diabolical Genius

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    also, let's analyze the school we are referring to.....UW is a very liberal school with a very liberal student body. it is almost like it is stuck in the 60s. not to mention UW and the state of Washington in general has a large Asian population (who was our enemy in WW2 again along with the Germans?).

    Not making excuses for them, but these could be factors.
     
  2. G_MAN113

    G_MAN113 Founding Member

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    "Senate member Karl Smith amended the resolution to eliminate a clause that said Boyington "was credited with destroying 26 enemy aircraft, tying the record for most aircraft destroyed by a pilot in American Uniform," for which he was awarded the Navy Cross."

    They were right to eliminate that clause, but not for the reasons they think they are:

    1. Pappy shot down 28 enemy aircraft, not 26...a record for USMC aviators.

    2. He was also awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions.

    For those of you that are interested in a story of a real hero, I'd recommend Pappy's autobiography "Baa Baa Black Sheep". He gives the details of his imprisonment for almost 2 years at the hands of vengeful Japanese captors after being shot down, as well as his own struggle with alcoholism...all told in a very humble, almost self-deprecating style. Excellent read.
     
  3. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    A U.S. Marine who won the Navy Cross and the Medal of Honor is precisely the kind of alumni the University of Washington should honor. The attitiude of the students is reprehensible. They are mindless, naive little nothings who will have, at the end of their lives, not have accomplished a tenth of what Boyington accomplished in five years. Shame on them!
     
  4. TigerFan23

    TigerFan23 USMC Tiger

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    Got this from another site:

    I'll bet these chicks are hating life right now as they are getting killed in a national popularity contest. I'd love to see some the emails getting shot their way.
     
  5. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    The short letter that I sent the women:

    Are you familiar with Nanking? prion.bchs.uh.edu/~zzhang..._Massacre/ Take a look and you will see why people like Pappy went to war. Pappy endured and fought these people so your parents would not be victims. You should be humbled that a man you never knew risked his life so that you could have one.

    Jill Ann Edwards;
    Junior, Mathematics (Comprehensive)
    [email protected]

    Ashley Rose Miller;
    Senior, International Studies (Int. Studies)
    [email protected]



    AND AN UPDATE ON THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON AND PAPPY BOYINGTON


    Jill Edwards
    Yesterday in the Nuze and on my show I shared with you the story of Jill Edwards, a junior math major at the University of Washington. In brief, Edwards, a member of the UW student senate, opposed a memorial to UW grad "Pappy" Boyington. Boyington was a U.S. Marine aviator who earned the Medal of Honor in World War II. Edwards said that she didn't think it was appropriate to honor a person who killed other people. She also said that a member of the Marine Corps was NOT an example of the sort of person the University of Washington wanted to produce.

    I'm happy to report to you that there are other students at the University of Washington who have the good sense to be embarrassed by Jill Edwards. In fact, one member of the student senate has introduced an item demanding an apology from Edwards. Here you go:

    Associated Students of the University of Washington
    Student Senate
    Session 12

    Edwards Apology

    WHEREAS Student Senator Jill Edwards offended all members of the United States Marine Corps, past or present, dead or alive; especially those who were, are, or will be students at the University of Washington with her comment that she "didn't believe a member of the Marine Corps was an example of the sort of person UW wanted to produce." This commented brought shame and dishonor to not only the UW Student Senate, but also the University as a whole, all its members who have served in the Marine Corps and all Marines past and present.

    BE IT RESOLVED BY THE ASSOCIATED STUDENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON:

    THAT

    Student Senator Jill Edwards will submit, in writing, a signed apology letter seeking forgiveness to all students, staff, and alumni who are now or ever have served in the United States Marine Corps. In said letter it will contain a formal apology and a recognition that her very rights and freedoms are guaranteed by such members of the armed services, to include the Marine Corps, Army, Navy, Air Force, and Coast Guard, past or present, living or dead. Additionally, said letter will be printed in all its form and substance in that day's edition of the UW Daily newspaper as well as being recited on the UW Radio station. To realize her mistake, she must acquaint herself with the history of the person she is so keen to dismiss, by reading Col. Boyington's book, Baa, Baa, Black Sheep. All of these requirements are mandatory, under pain of losing her seat on the Student Senate.

    History of Legislation

    02/15/2006: Submitted for consideration



    Wait .. it gets better! It seems that Jill Edwards is catching a little heat from the great unwashed. Now that's a shame, isn't it! Don't you think that a young adult should be allowed to deliver an insult like this to everyone who ever wore the dress blues of a United States Marine without any negative feedback at all? Jill, it seems, holds a place on the University of Washington student senate due to her membership in something called the "Honors Croquet League." Now isn't that special. Jill Edwards is an honors croquet player. We're all impressed. Here's an item that she posted on the Internet after the flap over her comments about Marines became public. We'll just leave the spelling where it is.



    Honors Croquet League
    Senate Reports


    Previous February 7, 2006
    Index of Dates

    Senate this week was interesting. I talked more than I ever have before and realized exactly why I never talk. I apparently upset a lot of people when I opposed a memorial for a Colonel from WWII who had recieved a Medal of Honor and who was a UW graduate. This was the main discussion and rather than go into it, I think I would rather post some of the charming and sweet letters I have recieved since then.

    ". . . most of you aren't informed at all about that which you discuss. That's a sad commentary about a university education that is supported by my tax dollars. No doubt you all have been corrected for your erroneous and sometimes outrageous remarks (Jill Edwards, Ashley Williams). It is one thing to stand up for your political beliefs. It's entirely another to totally misrepresent the truth for political reasons."

    " Against overwhelming odds, [Boyington] helped the overall cause of stopping what had been started on Dec. 7th, 1941 when the United States was attacked by the Empire of Japan. Or had you forgotten? Or did you ever even know? You should be honored that such a person is an alumnus of your school. Most schools can't claim such an honorable person. I'm just sorry that your school has to claim you."

    "If it were not for a lot of people like Greg Boyington, you'd probably be attending classes in German or Japanese............. Kinda sad—-—but such is life in the Socialist Soviet of Seattle, 'ay?"

    So there you have it. Thanks, I am thouroughly regretting opeining my mouth. No quote of the week this week, I think the above suffice.



    HOW ABOUT A PAPPY BOYINGTON MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP?

    Here is an email I received from a listener named Charles Rutledge:

    If Jill Edwards is opposed to a memorial on campus for Pappy Boyington, maybe a few of us "rich white men" should get together and fund the Pappy Boyington Memorial Scholarship, which would be available to US Marines or their children to attend the University of Washington. Then every year, long after she left the university, Jill Edwards and company would have to live with the knowledge that someone (or some people) was attending UW with money given in Boyington's honor and memory and for the benefit of US Marines and their families.

    I love the idea! So, here's what I'll offer. I'm good at coming up with ideas, as is Charles Rutledge. The problem is that I'm not good at execution. So, if someone will establish a qualified scholarship fund for Marine veterans or for the children of Marines lost in action to attend the University of Washington I'll kick off the fund-raising with a check for $5,000. This I will do in honor of my father, a Marine aviator, who fought in World War II, Korea and Vietnam.
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  6. goldengirlfan

    goldengirlfan simple man

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    I'd love to see 'em in a thong, preferably purple.:hihi:
     
  7. USNavyTiger

    USNavyTiger Founding Member

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    just a sad sad america this place is becoming.
     
  8. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    Kill them all, let God sort them out......oops, did I say that out loud? :grin:

    Naw, for real. For a brief time in history, I was a senator at ULM, NLU..whatever. I represented the School of Business there. I can sum up my experience in just one word...JOKE. I was there due to my overwhelming desire to serve in some small way. The rest were there as a social event. The girls were the worst. Idealistic, pompous, arrogant, and not least of all, ignorant. I lasted about a semester before leaving. I figured, why waste my time? Once I got to the point of wanting to strangle my fellow senators, I figured it was time to move on. Of course, I was 29 and they were all late teens. Not a good mix.

    You must have thick skin in order to go back to school at a late age. The division between the thought process of a person in their late teens and one knocking on the door of thirty is immense. This is an example of the pitiful state of our higher education system in this country. I, myself, did not think much differently in my teens than I do today. Just call it good upbringing.

    I feel sorry for this stupid little girl. Chances are, she will not change her views on the Marine Corps and rest of the military. Chances are, this whole experience will only concrete her distorted beliefs.

    Thank God that there are good people like TigerFan23 coming out of our schools that understand what being a good citizen means. Even though he did make the mistake of accepting a commission instead of being a real man and going enlisted. :thumb:
     
  9. bayareatiger

    bayareatiger If it's too loud YOU'RE TOO OLD

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    This thread reminds me of an observation that I made several years ago.

    "Liberals think everybody else in the world thinks just like them"

    "Conservatives are disgusted with everybody else in the world because they don't think like them."

    Idealism vs. Realism.

    It's real simple, kiddies.

    You gotta play with the cards you're dealt, not the ones you wish you had. :dis:
     
  10. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    I take it you stand on the side of realism.
     

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