Moochelle Obama cares

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by SabanFan, Aug 30, 2010.

  1. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    26,080
    Likes Received:
    1,247
    I read your responses. Red's going to tear you a new one with that weak sh*t you're bringing.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Semantics. A quarter of the population out of work is significantly worse than 10%.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    I didn't say I agreed with his every decision, only that he hasn't posted a huge failure yet. The moratorium is bad for Louisiana and bad for me. But, Obama is pragmatic if he's anything, and to the average American, it seems like a prudent move. If it causes oil prices to go through the roof or the economy of Louisiana to crash, then it will be a failure. Not a huge one, but a clear one. But right now it is just a questionable decision.
     
  4. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2003
    Messages:
    6,456
    Likes Received:
    151
    So you admit that you were incorrect, and in fact, more Americans are out of work now than at any time in the country's history. Got it.
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    Well, I suppose you must define what you call a failure. I assumed you meant failures on a scale with his predecessor. Trying to help the US car companies survive is something a President should be doing. If he had let them go bankrupt if would have been really, really ugly for all of America.

    Who says? everybody trades in at some point, the incentive got them to trade early to stimulate the economy by buying a new car. Clearly you disapprove, but how does this constitute a failure?

    If you can make this relevant to a Presidential failure, please do so.

    Look, the law is unconstitutional. Arizona cannot usurp the powers of the federal government. The AG has no choice but to act through the courts to settle the issue, that's the way the law works. This may end up before the Supremes before it's done, but this is the legal process of the USA. How does it constitute a Presidential failure? You are mistaking your personal political appointments with Presidential failures, I think.

    So what? Unemployment figures are only relevant as percentages of the population.

    Then you acknowledge an Obama Presidential sucesss. You just want to list it as a failure. :lol:

    Do you seriously think endless war is an achievement?

    Then show me the poll.

    How in the world is public opinion proof of a failure? George Bush remained popular enough to get himself re-elected after huge failures. Public opinion does not constitute failure. Presidential failures are clear, demonstrable, and quantifiable.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    45,195
    Likes Received:
    8,736
    No, I suggest you have missed the point completely.

    The feller said that the numbers of unemployed was evidence of a Presidential failure. Then offered the hyperbole that there are more unemployed Americans than in any time in history. Well, Duhhh! there are more Americans than in any time in history. You point out the obvious.

    Unemployment statistics are only relevant [/B when expressed as a percentage of the total population. My objection to his numbers was not that it was incorrect, but that it was nonsense. Raw unemployment totals in the absence of population totals are irrelevant.
     
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    26,080
    Likes Received:
    1,247

    That's where you're wrong. It was done strictly to appease his far left base. With the economy as it is, it was an incredibly stupid move.
     
    1 person likes this.
  8. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2005
    Messages:
    37,755
    Likes Received:
    23,932
    How is it "unconstitutional" when it mirrors the federal law? It is a law that is already on the books but not enforced! barry just fell in line with a long list of other POTUS's that didn't enforce it along with dubya, mccain and the late teddy "I get drunk and kill college girls" kennedy. He is however the first to file legal action against a state for trying to protect its borders.
     
  9. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2003
    Messages:
    8,787
    Likes Received:
    1,207
    Judge Napolitano explained it really clearly.


    Judge Napolitano: “Arizona Statute is UnConstitutional” | Arizona Immigration Laws
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2002
    Messages:
    26,080
    Likes Received:
    1,247
    So you don't think Obama had anything to do with the decision to file suit? That's Holder going out on his own? I don't think so. Arizona has a right to protect themselves if the Feds won't.
    There were ways to settle this short of litigation. Once again, it's Barry to the rescue. Scream racism and ride in and correct the injustice, despite the wishes of majority America. I swear. I think Barry might want to preside over a Republican congress because he's doing all he can to get the Dems tossed.
     

Share This Page