We already provide food stamps, section 8 housing, free transportation in most places, free healthcare through medicaid, free education, and many families receive SSI or Social Security. I fully understand we can not do away with the minimum wage...once it's given there is no getting rid of it, but by God we don't have to keep raising it and hurting everyone else.
without a good minimum wage the country is saying its ok to have a sizable % of its people living in a bad way. there will always be these jobs and most of them are not teenagers just making spending money.
What is a fallacy in your thinking is that you think the min wage creates some sort of bottom wealth? We are talking what $6/hr. Hell if I'm a company and I can get away paying a min. that is what I'm going to do. But if there was an actual free market system of people taking a job for what they are valued out it might be higher than $6. But since the govt. put that dollar (price fixing) amount then they just hold the market back.
no i dont think that. i think it keeps it from being worse. capitalism craps on the bottom. because anyone can do the bottom jobs they will always get paid crap, not necessarily what they are worth though. i think the govt needs to protect people that work these jobs by setting a minimum wage.
I don't see it as protecting them. I see it as giving companies a min to stick with. AKA Price Fixing.
The problem is that minimum wage will never be enough to support a family. A family on minimum wage will always have to have government assistance. It makes no sense to keep awarding people who do the bare minimum to advance themselves with higher wages. The tax payer pays the bill either way. Leave the minimum wage low and put strings attached to the government assistance that forces them to at least try to advance their position and improve their lot in life. Many people without a cattle prod to force them forward and up will be content to stay at the bare minimum of existence especially if someone else foots the majority of the bill. I'm all for helping those in need, but the help should come with some incentive to move forward and up and shouldn't be available forever unless the individual is really physically or mentally incapable of advancement. The free ride shouldn't be for life if you are capable of pulling your own load but just refuse to make the effort.
this makes sense, but where to set the min wage is where the rubber meets the road. $5___ was insane. $8 seems about right.
IMO and IMO only the minimum wage should be set at a level where a teenager or college student can buy gas money and have a few bucks to spend. If a company has trouble hiring at that amount then they will raise the pay. For those trying to live and/or support a family off minimum wage it really doesn't matter where it is set. The government will have to make up the difference and the business will just pass the higher minimum wage on to the consumer, they are not going to eat the loss. Either way the working folks foot the bill. However you can't attach strings to the minimum wage like you can a government handout. Like I said I have nothing against taking care of those that can't take care of themselves. But those at minimum wage level not trying to improve their lot in life should not be rewarded. Minimum wage is an entry level job, there is no reason an able hard working American should be stuck at that level for very long.
i disagree. i imagine there are countless reasons. thankfully i have never had to know. but there is know doubt that there are a lot of these jobs. more than could be filled by high school kids. this is my main point. a low/no min wage maintains and exploits a peasant class.
As someone who worked and payed his own way through school, no loans, I can assure you that no able bodied/minded person should be stuck at minimum wage level for long if that person has any ambition at all. I had several jobs that started at minimum wage and even my coworkers with very limited education and mental ability were able to move up if the showed a willingness to work. Believe me at minimum wage level if you show up every day sober and ready to work you will advance. Me and many of my co workers showed up every day stoned to the bone but ready to work and advance quickly.
