Miles in the Hands of an Angry Fanbase

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  1. JSracing

    JSracing Founding Member

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    I don't think Miles "lost" the game or Jimbo's play calling did either. I think there were physical as well as mental mistakes. BUT as a coach you accept responsibility for a Lose and work on it in practice. That's called humility. Miles probably did just that. I don't know I didn't see the post game interview.

    In the long run the goals are the same, to win the SEC, or is that not the goal? to do that you have to be preparred and try to eliminate mistakes whether mental or physical. True everyone has a bad day, but champions step up and work as a team when another player has a bad day. Champions don't all melt down on the same day. Sure everyone makes mistakes. I remember Mauck throwing a stupid interception to an Ole Miss defender during our NC year for a score. it was touch and go there for a while.

    There was allot of wide open football that was called from the sidelines. I honestly didn't see all these posts you talk about of Miles being conservative. but I don't look at every post either.

    I have seen some posts about INCONSISTANCY and it's true. I don't know if they were prepared or not since that is a judgement call. Heck 5 people could have watched the practices all week and have 5 different opinions on whether they were prepared or not.

    Regardless of who blames who, the players DO play the game, the coach accepts the responsibility for the lose and then trys to teach them where they messed up. and make no mistake however good FLORIDA is, we handed it to them. THAt is what is hard to accept. if they are great, fine they are. All the more reason to bring our "A" game. why didn't we bring our "A" game? who's fault was it? I don't know but I saw some HIGHLY touted talented players out there flat out screwing up, not all at once, but enough that we came out with less points then Florida.

    if anyone here denies that then someone needs to visit the optomitrist. I am a firm believer of standing up and saying, yeah it was me I screwed up"

    Sure JR knew he screwed up on the goal line, heck I kind of thought it was more the crowd noise and the center than him, you have a point there. BUT when you get back to practice YOU still WORK ON THAT because it was a screw up. Regardles od WHO's fault it was. You don't write if off because they "felt bad" about it on the sideline. IN fact GOOD teams work on it ahead of time. and they may have done that who knows. sure everyone makes mistakes, that's one way to win, off the other teams mistakes.

    BUt you can't just ACCEPT them like it's all good and say well we played Florida and they are good. HEck WE ARE GOOD. you have to work on stuff till you get it right then work on it someomre then work on it till you can do it in your sleep backwards. that's prepared.

    good day, nice post. for the most part.
     
  2. Kkille1LSU

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    Time for debate.

    I do not beleive that Miles was too conservative in the plays that were called. I do not believe the game plan from the beginning was planning to be conservative. What I do believe that when you are trying to establish some sort of run game or some sort of passing game, one must do one of them succesfully. When this happens, defenses become unsure of what is going to be called and run. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence, but can you tell me what type of play is going to be run in a "I-formation"? What about a play where you put a #1 or #2 receiver as QB. Do you believe the linebackers thought he was going to pass?

    Running 4 receivers for a pass play does not always make it the right play. Pass play consist of many different routes. The routes run were wrong for the soft cover 2 zone defense FLA ran the entire game. Jamarcus doesn't call the play, Peyton. Jimbo does. And as for Jamarcus calling off plays, another true sign we were going to run the ball. Coaches can establish passing or play action call offs.

    Do you know that one of the few runs that was considered successful was Hester's when we ran 4 receiver? That play was run once. The rest of our run plays were run out of run formations. Highschool linbackers learn on the first day these formations and the percentages of where the run goes.

    "Preparation: the action or process of making something ready for use or service or of getting ready for some occasion."
    "Coach: to instruct, direct or prompt."
    Do you believe that coaching does not consist of instructing, directing, or prompting the mental aspect of the game? Not being prepared for Tebow running game as much as passing game are coaching errors. I'm guessing you watched the game. Could you tell where and what Tebow was about to do? At least 75% of the time? Most of the fans around me could. Don't you think it is the responsibilty of the defensive coaches to make adjustments during the game to prevent the same play to gather a minimum of seven yards?

    Let me know if I missed anything. Let me know if my ignorance of football with the other LSU fans is too much.
     
  3. BostonBengal

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    I actually thought that when Early was in the shotgun for the 2nd time, that he would attempt a pass of some sort. After all, he was a high school QB. I'm sure Urban Myer knew that--since he's a head coach and no doubt would have viewed Early's highschool tapes (since Early was a highly ranked recruit) but I seriously doubt the Florida defense thought that.
     
  4. JSracing

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    and this brings up something else along those lines. No one is whining about refs, I know that isn't popular to do, BUT...

    In this day and age of big time football with all the parity we have in the SEC, one play or bad call can make or break a season. Look at Auburn's undefeated season. had it not been for the penalty to let them kick the extra point again, things might have gone much different. All I am saying is this, We don't know HOW our guys would have reacted had we gone up 14-7.

    People say well all the mistakes they made... true we had other oppurtunitys to win the game. BUT why must we accept sub standard officiating and HOPE there are multiple oppotunities to win a game in a league were each PLAY can make or break and entire season? think about it. Momentum means allot.
     
  5. StaceyO

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    Without a doubt, the momentum changed permanently when we didn't score after holding onto the ball for 17 plays. That drive was never-ending and had to have demoralized the Florida defense. They couldn't stop us.

    The TD, which was spectacular, was called back on a phantom holding call, and Hester's TD was ruled not a TD. Then we fumbled. After that, nothing went right for us.
     
  6. Big C

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    JS you said what I was trying to get across. Before that series of events we were pretty focused and playing well, except for the muffed punt, after that point we just totally lost it mentally for awhile and I really don't believe that happens if we go up 14-7 at that point. It was the end of a really long drive that was setting the tone of the game in my opinion.
     
  7. MeauxJeaux

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  8. BostonBengal

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    I'm not too impressed with the consistancy in officiating in the SEC. I can't say the officiating in yesterday's game was worse than that of Auburn (obviously), but it most of the SEC games, it seems that we have Pop Warner officials.

    It's a black eye for the SEC as a whole, yet I don't forsee the league doing anything to step up.
     
  9. Frogleg

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    Now, let me ask you a few questions:

    Do you think that Les Miles is a great college football coach?/Is he one of the top 12 coaches in college football?

    Do you ever wince when Miles speaks during interviews?
     
  10. USMTiger

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    Yes and yes. Next question?
     

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