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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    A continuing history is not something that remains static. Sure, Les was at 80%, uh, 78%, uh, 77%. His winning percentage was built up over his first 7 seasons and after that starting trending downward year after year. Who can tell if he would have righted the ship enough to do as well as Oeaux last year. For one thing he wouldn't have fired Cam and put Ensminger in the OC slot. He probably would have won the games against bad teams but by much closer scores, He would have lost to Alabama and who knows what would have happened vs Florida. Guice might not have run the wrong way but Les might have made that point moot with one of his infamous clock management errors. Not saying that Oeaux was the best they could have done but it was clearly time for Les to go. It's a shame that he was too stubborn to see his errors and rectify them. He might still be the coach.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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  3. Pjoe

    Pjoe Formally Known as $TigerFan$

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    I'm pretty sure @shane0911 has indicated he was with most of us. Wanted Les gone, hire a better coach, did not think O was the guy, but obligated to support him since it was already done. But like the rest of us does not hold back to call him the dumb ass we all thought he was, when he puts that shit-show on the field each week.

    Not sure where you are going with the noncommittal stuff.
     
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    Pjoe Formally Known as $TigerFan$

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    I agree, just stating that O record as interim did not solidify him as the second coming. We just don't know what would have happened. It may have been Miles first losing season we just don't know. This was a botched hire, as of now, and there is no way to hide it.
     
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    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Pjoe Formally Known as $TigerFan$

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  7. COTiger

    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    So you think a 4 & 2 record is a shit show? I doubt that Webster's contains the words you would use to describe a 3 & 3 record.
     
  8. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    2012 he went 10-3
    2013 he went 10-3
    2105 he went 9-3 (McNeese would have been 10)

    that’s not trending anywhere.
    it’s staying exactly the same.

    that’s staring with the season immediately after 1/9/12. when everyone said it was a steady spiral since.

    no it wasn’t.
    we sagnated. wasn’t moving forward any more. that’s why he needed to be replaced.
    but we wasn’t moving backwards either.

    we just wasn’t moving at all.

    as far as what Miles would have done if he was allowed to finish 2016: i can show stats from 2015 against a similar level of competition that O faced in ‘16 that show results were eerily similar.

    Les got canned for those results.
    O got a fat raise and huge buyout.

    so if you feel Les needed to go at the end of 2015 (which i did), then logic tells you that O getting nearly identical results in ‘16 should not have been good enough to land the full time job.
     
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    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    if record alone was all that mattered, then why fire Miles?

    Oh, that’s right, HOW we arrived at that record was the kicker.

    so let’s review those 2 losses shall we?

    Mississippi State made us drop trou so they could spank our bare asses on national tv. and all we did in return was say “thank you sir, may i have another?”

    then Troy handed us our first ever loss to a Sunbelt team by out-physicalling us and pushing us around like little bitches.

    Hell, at least when Les got pushed around, it was by Bama. not by the 4th best team in the state of Alabama.
     
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  10. LSU_4_LIFE

    LSU_4_LIFE Im just sayin........

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    Exactly! Let us not forget......It was time for Les to go ONLY due to his own stubbornness. If he would have innovated his offensive scheme and allowed a modern day OC to bring LSU's offense into this century, he would still be our HC right now. After seeing Alleva with his hand up O's ass, its obvious CLM told him to kick rocks when he stuck his nose in the football programs business and rightfully so. Its more obvious and agreed upon that Alleva needs to be fired than it was that Les needed to be fired.

    Les wasn't fired due to stagnant 10-3 seasons. He was fired because he refused to change and 10-3 was probably as good as we were going to get (which wasn't good enough).
     
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