Middle Eastern Country to run U.S. Ports

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  1. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    If all arabs are the same, then why differentiate between a arab country and a business owned by that arab country?
     
  2. LSUGradin99

    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    For the record though, I think the donation stinks. It was made weeks before the ports deal was finalized, but I find it a bit concerning. Of course it is a huge gesture but... For UAE to give the money *months* after Katrina and mere weeks before their Dubai Ports deal was finalized........
     
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    LSUGradin99 I Bleedeth Purple 'N Gold

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    I am correcting myself. Further reading shows their donation was made electronically on Sept 21.

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  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    having given this isse careful consideration over the last few days, i am leaning towards agreeing with our friends sabanfan and bush that this isnt a big deal. it certainly sounds terrible, but i dont know that it really means much of anything.
     
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    The fact that they gave the money to FEMA and the black hole that is the NOLA school system really makes me question their judgment.
     
  6. marcmc99

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    They also gave $1 million+ to the Bush library at aTm a few years back. (The one time I'd like to see what kind of dirt Rex and his loons can dig up, and I guess he's off drawing cartoons for his website.)

    Beside the six ports the UAE would operate, they would also control stevedoring operations at several other locations, including Beaumont and Corpus Christi, TX. According to what I saw on the news last night, over 1/3 of the US military equipment travels through these locations. Another reason this is a bad move.

    I believe this whole scenario is bad because a particular country has not declared war on the US, a faction of muslims have declared war on the US. And this faction has infiltrated practically every country in the world, including the US. The enemy cannot be defined by geographic borders (although most are still found in the arab world). Yes, we need to build solid relations with Arab governments that show sympathy to the US....let me re-phrase that...governments that value US dollars over their religious beliefs. These relationships need to be kept at arms length until arabs stop commiting acts of terror against the western world. If the UAE, the Saudis etc. don't like it, tough. We'll lighten our stance when they gain control of their citizens.
     
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    CC's trigger finger is itchy on the subject of Bush. I said that it may not have been a wise move politically. On the issue of National security, I simply stated that I am comfortable with the decision. That's how I feel. If others are nervous, that's their perogative. I'm not trying to change anybody's mind.
     
  8. Deceks7

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    Bilateral security arrangements are just opportunities waiting to be exploited. Issues of trade and political power seem much more important than national security to our "leadership". Be it Toshiba selling the milling equipment and technologies designed for our naval screws, or dropping our "racist" prosecution of Wen Ho Lee, national security makes a great headline, but is seemingly third or fourth down the list of importance.

    Our "leaders" must stop living this fantasy of needing to be well liked and living off our reputation, rather than simply living up to our values as a country. Our current path is the one of Willie Loman, the one where we just end up hanging ourselves.
     
  9. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    More than meets the eye, indeed. Of obvious consideration is the fact that the UAE allows US military staging bases there that are vital to maintaining a field army in Iraq. More importantly, UAE air bases permit U-2 spyplane operations to operate there, which many other local allies do not. This is part of it, I am sure. Of course, our military presence there prevents the tiny oil-rich country from being overun or even threatened by its many larger and greedy neighbors. The UAE government has been friendly and supportive of the US. But they are already well compensated for the US military bases there, I feel.

    But Dubai is also notorious for smuggling, money laundering, and drug trafficing in suport of terrorists. Dubai is also believed to be the transfer port for the spread of nuclear technology by the Abdul Qadeer Khan network.

    If we back out and they get offended -- fugg 'em.

    Bingo.

    This administration's single-minded zeal for "free trade" rewards the interests of both domestic and foreign corporations over those of the security of the country, preserving our environment, the loss of American jobs, or the flight of American industry to other countries. This is all about Free Trade.

    Interestingly, the Bush administration has been negotiating a free trade deal with the UAE at the same time that the port deal was being negotiated. Big corporations seem to have undue influence on this administration's policies.

    This one is worth thinking out completely, martin.

    An Arab corporation, heavily staffed with Arab employees is most likely to be infiltrated by Islamic terrorists. Worse, most of them, while not terrorists, are sympathetic to Islamic causes. The Dubai government company would necessarily have access to security information and some might pass this information along. Additionally these ports are used by the US military for deployment and supply. Much information useful to our enemies would be open to the port company and the UAE government. They could even affect how efficiently our transports could be loaded.
     
  10. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    The same could be said about Great Britain and Canada.
     

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