ldskule: Roger that.:thumb: So, you believe in Jesus, you just don't agree with organized religion? where do you tend to fall politically (right, left, center). I'm just trying to understand your viewpoint.
Pretty much. I don't have a problem with people that are involved in organized religion per se', I just think that many of them use it as a crutch, r when it's convenient. I think that someone should be a good person for it's own sake, rather than because Jesus says that they should be. The lack of rationale does not rest easy with me.
My wife was reading this thread and made the following statement, and I quote: "What a moron!" :hihi:
If there is no Jesus, what does "being a good person" buy you? Really the question is "how do you even be a good person" without Jesus? You can also even ask "what IS being a good person" apart from Jesus? Being nice to people that are nice to you? Paying taxes? Going to work every day? Going to church every Sunday? Tithing? Confessing? Receiving the sacraments (hint, organized religion is bad)? Central tenets of Christianity: 1) Man sinned and therefore died spiritually... was dead to a relationship with God and alive to sin and its power, "in Adam" 2) Man learned to live out of his own flesh, will, emotions (own resources) 3) God gave the Law through Moses to the Jews... to show us that we could not possibly keep it and needed something better (Jesus) Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." By fulfilling the law Christ satisfied it's requirements in our place. In other words, the 'required' obedience is accomplished in Him. Therefore, in Christ do we keep all the law faithfully, and cannot be accused. In this way, we are no longer judged by any of the everlasting laws, for we are under the Grace of God. The law doesn't condemn us. 4) Jesus came, lived, died on the cross, was resurrected. Not only do we need Jesus for our eternal salvation, but we also need his resurrected Life for here on earth. (Romans 5:10) We cannot live according to God's will out of our flesh, will, and resources.
That ain't exactly what I was taught. You demonstrate that there are many, many defintions of Christainity. The principal tenets of Christianity are expressed in the Nicene Creed, the most widely accepted creed among Christians. It is up to present time in use in the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, and most Protestant churches. Central Christian beliefs which are affirmed in the Nicene Creed include, but are not limited to: 1. The Trinity: God is a single eternal being who exists as three distinct, eternal, and indivisible persons: Father, Son (Divine Logos, incarnated as Jesus Christ), and Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost). 2. Jesus Christ is both fully God (divine) and fully human: two natures in one person. He is without sin. 3. That salvation from "sin and death" is available through the person and work of Jesus Christ, especially his sacrificial execution and resurrection, by which humanity, and the entire universe, are "redeemed" and reconciled with God. Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox Christians have arrived at several explanations as to exactly how this salvation, or atonement, occurs. 4. Jesus's virgin birth, crucifixion, resurrection, ascension, and Second Coming. 5. The "General Resurrection," in which all people who have ever lived will rise from the dead at the end of time, to be judged by the returned Christ.
You are right. It ain't. I believe that the Church (and I use this term very loosely) does not teach biblical Christianity.
i believe that the real santa claus wears a green suit, not a red suit. who here is gonna prove me wrong?
I can show you about a million examples of Santa wearing a red suit. Can you show me one of Santa wearing green? No one can prove you wrong in what you believe. But it is easy to prove you are wrong in stating a fact.
