Meet Mary Jo Kopechne

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    yeah stupid partisans.


     
  2. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Well, if I had said something along the lines of 'W still sucks because he is a republican,' you might have been successful in proving me hypocritical.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    the point of this post wasnt that kennedy sucks because sabanfan is a blind partisan and kennedy is a democrat, but rather because kennedy is an irresponsible worthless bastard whose actions directly contributed to killing this girl kopechne.

    i mean is there a better reason to be critical of a politician? can anyone make any criticism of anything without you painting it as partisan foolishness? how many girls will he need to kill before a criticism of hsi sorry ass is not "partisan"?

    sabanfan is a partisan, he appears to be more critical of democrats than republicans. but that doesnt me he isnt right about kennedy. kennedy did play a big role in killing this girl.
     
  4. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    That story is laced with partisan rhetoric, all but absolving any wrongdoing whatsoever by W because of Kennedy's prior actions. It's quite distastefully and clearly motivated. The idea is that, since this democrat was responsible for something horrible some years ago and clearly took part in a major cover-up, there was never any deceit regarding Iraq. What a transparent load of crap.
    Of course. All I ask is that it not be pathetically reaching to draw connections between unrelated issues. Not using someone else's tragedy as a way to advance or support your own cause is also a solid starting point.
    Criticism against him has never been an issue with me. When it's presented in this terribly written, logical snakepit, it's clear that it isn't just about Mary Jo or Ted.
    Kennedy should absolutely be held responsible for his actions, to the fullest extent of the law. Abuse of power, in my opinion, is one of the worst actions a human can do. And cover-ups like this one are every bit an abuse of power. But I don't need someone interjecting cancerous neo-conservative idealogy into the situation.
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    If Bush killed a young girl and tried to cover it up you would be all over his ass andyou wouldn't be qualifying your criticisms. So quit trying to bull**** a bull****ter.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Lets just keep the facts straight.

    Kennedy is a lecherous, drunken fool whose wealth and political power sustain him when he couldn't get elected as dogcatcher outside of Massachusetts. Everybody agrees.

    Well, it wasn't homicide, it was an accidental death. His drunkeness made him an irresponsible driver, but it wasn't a murder. He delayed in reporting the accident because he was trying to cover up his drunkenness and his affair, not her death. Again, shamelessly irresponsible and callous, but not murder and conspiracy.

    The law apparently saw it as an indirect contribution. Negligence rather than action. The FBI Freedom of Information Act site has the FBI report on the incident. There are some interesting things there. FBI Chappaquiddick File

    He was charged with manslaughter and leaving the scene of an accident. Kennedy said he was in shock and had left to seek help. There was just no evidence for murder, although there were plenty of people looking for some.

    Still, he was revealed to be scandalous and deceitful and would not be electable because of this. This incident gave him and his family a bad name and caused his political career to derail.
     
  7. USMTiger

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    Huh? Are you being sarcastic? Hasn't he been a Senator for about 103 years or so now? Isn't the Kennedy name one of the most revered names in America, particularly to Democrats?
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Uh, . . .Teddy boy was being groomed to be President of the United States before Chappaquiddick. He waited until 1980 before actually trying to campaign for the Presidency, hoping that Chappaquiddick was behind him. He went on national TV to "explain" Chappaquiddick to the electorate, but came off badly. Jimmy Carter totally whipped his ass in the primaries.

    Teddy gave up any hope for national office after that. Massachusetts would elect a Kennedy even if he was dead.

    The revered Kennedy's are the dead Kennedy's (John and Robert). Edward Kennedy has been nothing but a dissappointment and an embarrassment.
     
  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    No one will ever know whether Mary Jo would have survived had Fat Boy attempted to save her rather than his own a$$. He should have tried. There is no excuse. I don't know how he looks at himself in the mirror. I place him in the same category as Jane Fonda...not worthy of life.
     
  10. USMTiger

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    Ah I see what you are saying.
     

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